• Today in #Toronto, #RobFord garnered quite a bit of praise for finally appearing at a public event in support of the gay community. And frankly, good for him. I don’t particularly like Rob Ford, I disagree with most of his policies, I loath his approach to public discourse, but I’ll give praise where praise is due. Good for him. He’s a…[Read more]

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    • I agree wholeheartedly. The Liberal party isn’t about telling people what they should believe it’s about asking them.

      I think Bob Rae very eloquently spoke to this concept in his “Social policy speech” (Vancouver YWCA, Jan 28).

      A few quotes from the speech:

      “The conversation about policy has to go well beyond any particular political party…[Read more]

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    • Jeff,
      We have to be carefull about changing positions on issues. If our original position was evidence based then any change should be made because of evidence and not because our original position was unpopular. A consistent message goes a long way towards building a relationship with the electorate. I know that in the west we have a lot of work…[Read more]

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      • Hi Jim

        I won’t say that I entirely disagree. We need to be careful, for example, about changing our positions on things at the drop of a hat. But despite our new mantra of “evidence based policy” as the solution to all our ills, we can’t lose sight of the fact that conclusions from evidence have as much to do with the evidence you pay heed…[Read more]

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        • Jeff,
          when I was a young man voting for the first time Canadians new what the Liberal Party of Canada stood for. It stood for a united, bilinqual, multicultural Canada.
          The reason they knew it was because Pierre Trudeau never stopped reminding them of it.
          The same can be said for the party position with regard to the constitution and for…[Read more]

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          • Please excuse the spelling errors. Thankfully my daughter who is an english teacher won’t get to see this post.

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            • @Jim – I don’t actually think we disagree at all. We definitely need to refine our messaging to Canadians, and it can’t be as generic or as baldly brokerage as “we want to be the party you want!” At the same time, we can’t commit narrowly or immovably to a specific set of policy positions. Your example of Trudeau’s messaging illustrates…[Read more]

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  • Quash the Quorum

    Concurrent with the policy convention in Ottawa last January was an election for new officers to the Liberal Party’s national board of directors. During those campaigns much attention was lavished on ordinary members, we being the foundation of…etc etc and so on and so forth.

    Some of these candidates who did the lavishing are…[Read more]

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    • Yes I agree
      Lets see if we are open and inclusive

      And what the membership thinks of the “thought of by some”…obvious decision …soon made on their behalf

      I agree all other potential leadership candidates are then at a disadvantage and when we are talking about a 500,000 dollar spending limit (or more) to run many will maybe sit it out

      The…[Read more]

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    • NOT BOB RAE, sweet mother I’d leave the party if we became that hopeless.

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    • Revisitng the conditions at any time during the current Interim Leadership term would be completely irresponsible on the National Board’s part. There is absolutely no reason for this matter to be revisted at all.

      The condtions placed on the Interim Leadership last May apply ONLY to the POSITION. They DO NOT apply only to ONE specific person.…[Read more]

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      • Doug, you are saying Bob Rae can step down as interim leader then run?

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        • The point Richard is that this entire business of a “vow” and the 5-month period between stepping down as Interim before a campaign was all made up by the last Board, it is not in the Constitution.

          Not only is it not stated anywhere in the Constitution, the rule didn’t exist until after the defeat and resignation of the last leader.

          A lot…[Read more]

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        • I’m not sure if that is a statement or a question.

          It has been my interpretation in the past… that it applies to whoever is serving as Interim Leader. Which, to me, suggests if someone is NOT the Interim Leader, he or she would NOT be bound by the conditions set out by the previous National Board.

          If that is indeed the case, then Bob Rae…[Read more]

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          • What past are you referring to, Doug? Michael Ignatieff didn’t have to do any of this, remember. He acted as interim following Stephane Dion, and went from Interim to Leader.

            After getting slaughtered in the election and reviled by the media for the “coronation” that took place, all of this business was made up.

            The fact that the leadership…[Read more]

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            • Margareta,
              The situation with Michael Ignatieff was the exception rather than the norm and should not have happened. In every other case I can remember the interim was an individual who indicated that he or she would not be a candidate for leader. I believe the situation is the same when you factor in the NDP and the Conservatives as well.

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              • I agree, Jim, it should not have happened, so the answer is to take it out on people who were disenfranchised in the first place?

                If the Liberal Party thinks that the way to repair the damage it has done is with more of the same, then these truly are the final chapters in the party’s existence.

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                • Margareta,
                  I am not sure I understand what you are getting at. All that has happened is that the party has gone back to operating as all the parties have normally done for years. Interim Leaders agree not to run for the Leadership.

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                  • It’s not in the constitution, the provision only applies to the current interim leadership, why would that be?

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                    • Margreta,
                      First of all let me appologize for not spelling your name correctly. My understanding is that it has never been in the consitution and is handled much in the same way as the rules including budgets for the leadership race. I can remember back as far as Lester Pearson and with the exception of the Ignatieff situation it…[Read more]

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            • By “in the past” means… before last week… that it was my interpretation when the conditions were set out and again when I looked back at references I could find (again) about a month or so ago.

              It has nothing to do with Mr. Ignatieff or Mr. Dion. I am referring to the conditions set out by the previous National Board in May, 2011.

              The…[Read more]

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    • Boycotts rarely work as a tactic and are usually ignored by the attendees. Respectful dissent is a more appropriate and reasonable approach.

      Our Party is in ‘flux’ so i think we should spend our #time preparing to present Liberalism as the obvious choice for voters rather than as an imposition or agitation.

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    • Is the May 14 Conference is really about the leadership rules, it means that it’s about recommendations of the special Rules Committee established by the board at the end of April.
      We, as grassroots, were never told who the members of the committee are or how they were selected. Taking into consideration that the one of the vital decisions…[Read more]

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    • The CoP call on the 14th has nothing to do with leadership rules. I am bothered by the fact that someone – especially a former riding president – who has absolutely no information about what is happening on the 14th would jump to such an irresponsible conclusion, much less suggest that President’s boycott the meeting.

      The agenda for the 14th…[Read more]

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      • Really? I provide the facts that dispels the conspiracy theory presented above, and some one gives me a thumbs down? for those that are interested, here is the agenda:

        Council of Presidents
        Conference Call
        Monday, May 14th, 2012 – 7:30 pm ET
        AGENDA
        1. Confirmation of Quorum
        2. Adoption of Agenda
        3. Interim Leader’s Report
        4. National Board’s…[Read more]

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        • Oh now we need to make an explanation? lol.

          I gave you the thumbs-down, Brian, because you did not provide any facts at all. It wasn’t until you got a thumbs-down that you posted the Agenda.

          You could have simply posted the agenda instead of launching into a personal attack on a fellow Liberal, particularly one who clearly invested time,…[Read more]

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          • Every President has received an email with the agenda, the by-law and additional information, Margreta. I hardly call that a “chosen few”.

            We are voting on a by-law that will allow us to elect the chair and other officers of the CoP. It is important. That is why we are having the call.

            And that was not a personal attack, Margreta. That…[Read more]

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            • It was entirely personal, the offense you took was clear without you saying how “bothered” you were, and twice you said it was “irresponsible” – and all of this when you could have just said, “In fact, here is the agenda…”

              I don’t see why I or anyone else should care what you are “bothered” by, I care about the facts. Please stop…[Read more]

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      • Brian,
        The fact that any member has absolutely no idea what is happening on the 14th is a big part of the problem. Perhaps Mike Crawley might want to focus more on transparency and inclusiveness and less on making speeches to the Economic Club

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        • Jim, Mike Crawley has nothing to do with the Council of Presidents since we changed the constitution to not have the President be the chair any more. That was a pretty transparent process, actually, done at the Ottawa convention with around 3,200 members involved in the process.

          I have been involved in this party for over 3 years now, and I have…[Read more]

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          • Brian, you guys are failing. You are failing to make the member ship feel included. We have a hand full of points to discuss, with no preperation, no advance reading to out line the issues to be discussed. This is not the way to make members feel included. You guys are looking for a rubber stamp.

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            • Richard, I am confused when you say “You Guys”. In regards to this call, I am just one of 308 riding Presidents. I have nothing to do with this call, the bylaw we are voting on, or the process used.

              However.

              The matter of the CoP electing its own chair as opposed to the President of the Party being the chair was decided by the membership at…[Read more]

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            • Hi Richard, the Council of Presidents was set up as body to be the voice of the grassroots and to share information and best practices. It is comprised of all 308 Electoral District Presidents. In BC we had a President’s Conference Call last week to share our thoughts about the upcoming Council of President’s call. Our Presidents engage their…[Read more]

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      • I think that we, as Liberal members, have become so used to having decisions, policy, and leaders rammed down our throat, that we tend to jump to these conclusions, and to blame us for that is irresponsible.

        Openness is an easy concept – why does our party leadership feel that they/we have things to hide? Why are all such agendas and decisions…[Read more]

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        • Mike posted about when the results of the national board meeting, including that the rules for leadership would be set in June, on April 23rd on the main page of Liberal.ca: http://www.liberal.ca/newsroom/blog/members-update-national-board-meets/.

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          • Whatever Brian … What “Mike” said in his blog post late April was about 1/10 of what he let the press in on in early May and made no specific reference to making a decision on the Bob Rae fiasco, something that every single Liberal I talk to (and many non-Liberals) has been waiting to hear … regardless … I think you miss my point … this…[Read more]

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            • I don’t disagree that the party could do more to communicate to members. I think there have been some great points made here about sharing more information with members.

              As I mention above, never in my time with the party has anyone ever asked me to see the CoP agenda. I think the expectations around openess in this party have changed, at…[Read more]

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              • It’s called being pro-active, Brian. Just because no one has asked for a certain type of information doesn’t mean we can’t start from the position that EVERYTHING should be posted unless it is deemed “secret”. That’s how the party “responds to these new expectations” – simple, no?

                Regarding Mr. Crawley’s post … he doesn’t mention a…[Read more]

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                • Martin, I am all for being pro-active, but you have to be reasonable. Sometimes it just never occurs to people that posting the agenda of a CoP meeting, for instance, is something that the members would want to see. I agree they should be posted. But perhaps we can give our leaders the benefit of the doubt and assume that they haven’t thought…[Read more]

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        • All press releases are here: http://www.liberal.ca/newsroom/news-release/

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          • Thanks for that Brian, but I already know how to use a web site. This comment is not in any way I can see, germane to my comment. No press release corresponding to Mr. Crawley’s press scrum on (I think) May 4th is posted.

            I never suggested that there was no place to find press releases on this site – I mentioned: agendas, decisions, press…[Read more]

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            • ” If the LPC were to operate in a truly open way, posting of all agendas, decisions, important dates, press releases everything, would be the rule not the exception.”

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            • You can hardly expect me to read your mind, Martin. You said press releases, so I linked to them.

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      • Thumbs up Brian :)

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    • ATTENTION MURRAY TODD:
      It would appear that the purpose of the CoP meeting you referred to in your lead post was NOT – according to Brian Rice – to consider a recommendation to rescind or change the conditions that apply to the current term of Interim Leadership. Brian kindly (though I would not have) published the CoP meeting agenda further down…[Read more]

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    • It is the first posting turning “yellow” as a recognition of high number of “thumb us” received. I haven’t seen it before. To me, it is the indication that the topic seems to be very important to us. We are very sensitive to it and ready to jump up (even if it turns out to be a gossip).
      Conclusion: we need and we want to know as much as…[Read more]

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      • I think we have two different audiences for Liberal.ca, members, and voters. I think we may need to different entry points for those two audiences. I’m not sure that the party is well served by voters coming here and finding commentary about internal party issues, agendas and minutes of meetings, but obviously, as you point out, members want a…[Read more]

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        • Hi Bryan, couldn’t agree more. This issue is coming up over and over again. I don’t know what to suggest taking into consideration that EnFamille is dying due to the lack of members involvement and being ignored by tops (again – the internal party issue).

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        • That’s fairly easy to do… just take the DEMO I’m working on and put it there once it’s ready for prime time… more on the DEMO soon (by personal invitation) :-)

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        • I think we need to stop pretending that any information posted anywhere is “safe” from prying eyes.

          I happen to know of a staunch conservative supporter (not an official member of the party however) who IS a member of the LPC (only costs $10) and as such has access to make comments on this site and (sorry to burst your bubble Doug) has access…[Read more]

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          • Yes out side of the cannabis resolution what exactly is there about the liberals out there to get excited about?

            Name a couple more national effecting policies please that they have stood up on????

            I dont know of another thing that has mobilized so much interest

            Some of you act like old liberals as I hate to say most dont give a darn what we do…[Read more]

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          • Well, even if we do manage to keep something secret, there is always going to be an ”Anonymous Liberal” willing to give it to the press anyway! :)

            You are right, Martin. There are no secrets in the party any more. I think we just need to accept that and be more open.

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          • Hi Martin Showell… yes… there is nothing prevening any member of any other political party from buying an LPC membership… and vice-versa. I’m quite aware of that.

            I’ve never maintained that En Famille was free of current or former CPC or NDP members… just that what’s posted on En Famille is not indexed by search engine and, therefore,…[Read more]

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    • For the Attention of Murray Todd: from perusing the National Board list I note that the position of Chair – Council of Presidents is vacant. Perhaps the concern over a quorum has to do with the vacancy.

      Given that the letter of agreement concocted by the former Board is beyond the remit of the CoP to rescind, there is opportunity to make…[Read more]

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    • Hi Murray, Thank you for your comment. I responded to your email too. There might just be some misunderstanding. The agenda for the Council of Presidents was sent out two weeks ago and does not include any motions or discussions about the interim leader. Sincerely,

      Ray Larson
      Chair, BC Federal Liberal Council
      Président, Conseil libéral fédérale…[Read more]

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    • I have read most of the comments that followed this post, and I have just one thing to say, My EDA did not contact me as I think Brian suggested was their duty for my input, and, had the type of input that might be expected from me been posted nationally I could have at least emailed my EDA. I think this is the crux of the issue that makes it…[Read more]

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      • Don, it is the responsibility of the Riding President to discuss issues of the Council of Presidents with their elected executives. My riding happens to have public executive meetings that any member can come to, but this is not a requirement in the constitution.

        Further, I think we need to trust our Presidents as to what issues need to be more…[Read more]

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        • Wow isn’t this nice thread of amorous Liberals. Brian I’m sorry but your response was a little harsh. Yes Murray is a good friend of mine but I would say the same no matter who it was. Murray is our colleague and past candidate… If you are going to engage in debate then the other side deserves as much respect as you yourself expect. The word…[Read more]

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          • Dean, I do not apologize for my post.

            Murray is a respected member of this party, who has a great deal of influence on the opinion of members not only in his riding but also across BC. I feel that he has a responsibility, as both a former president and a past-candidate, to ensure that when he accuses the party of some kind of wrongdoing that…[Read more]

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            • Hi Brian , I will not respond to anything that was said in your post other than to say you missed my point completely.I was not asking or even suggesting you or anyone apologize for anythihng. Simply I was suggesting that this discussion is moot or should be. I was not asking for any input on what he said she said . What’s done is done . I’m…[Read more]

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  • Scott Yee posted an update 3 months ago

    #website

    I was wondering if the thumbs up & down system could be changed to show all ups & downs?

    Personally, (maybe I am the only one) I think it would be better that way.

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  • Dear friends,

    Two days ago Tim Uppal, Minister for Democratic Reform, made a completely inaccurate statement where he claimed that the opposition parties had been endeavouring to block the progress of Bill C-7, An Act respecting the selection of senators and amending the Constitution Act, 1867 in respect of Senate term limits. In an article…[Read more]

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  • Sang Riel posted an update 1 month, 1 week ago

    #leadershiprace
    Some would say that to know where we are going, requires that we know where we come from. Others might say that to deny your lineage is to deny who you are, and who you have the potential to become. Our forefathers toiled endlessly to make this Canada, the great country that it is today. One of my distant relatives was hung from a…[Read more]

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    • Well said in some parts here Sang although to me it doesn’t take into account very important things a realist like me see’s …….the golden rules or rule…for example

      You cant really pretend all of your description above can ever happen when its $50,000 dollars just to enter the race and $500,000 dollars needed to run…and its winner take…[Read more]

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    • Yeah my relative to Sang. Hello there. Its always a pleasant surprise to meet relatives one never knew they had.

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    • Sang, I agree we need bold initiatives. Isn’t the parties’ decision to adopt a policy of legalizing of pot one of them? How about lowering the entrance fee so anyone can run and raise issues?

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  • #enjeux Les gens nous demandent pourquoi nous luttons… Avant de devenir sympathisants, ils veulent connaitre nos positions… Et bien vous êtes les premiers à avoir la grande nouvelle: jetez un coup d’oeil et partagez nos toutes nouvelles pages ”Pourquoi nous luttons”: http://www.liberal.ca/fr/pourquoi-nous-luttons/

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    • #budget
      A more appropriate name for the Conservative Government’s ”Jobs, Growth and Long Term Prosperity Act” might be the ”Cut and Gut Adversity Act”.

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    • I have several friends and family that voted Conservative and some that are even actual members (yes, I’m working on them :-).

      In recent conversations with these friends and family, every single one of them has indicated that they are, at the least, ”uncomfortable” with the omnibus bill, both in size and content, and at the most, ”offended and…[Read more]

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  • Mr. Rae, your decision announced on this sunny morning made the sun to shine with brighter rays. Thank you very much for this.

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  • #leadership This just in….

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/rae-wont-seek-liberal-leadership/article4255399/

    So far it hasn’t made it to the National Post, and part of me is wondering if this is premature since no one here has picked up on this. We haven’t even heard whether the board was going to let him run….officially at…[Read more]

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  • #leadershiprace

    If we are the supposedly open and inclusive party….please tell me three things ???

    A) who submitted a motion to decide if bobby rae could break his word and run and who signed it?

    B) how were they able to convince our council that they could do so?????

    C) where is the MOTION and why CANT WE SEE IT ?

    Is there not some rules…[Read more]

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    • Did somebody actually have to submit one? Pretty much since Bob Rae took over as interim leader, (which the word “interim” has been removed from this site) there has been speculation he’ll run, but he kept saying he’ll follow the rules set out by the party executive, and it was just out there, that once we had a new executive, they would have…[Read more]

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      • How else can he get councils ear….??
        If its them that brings this up then we know nothing is changed and corruption or an old boys club still exists

        No there must BE A MOTION …AND I WANT TO KNOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Some have absolutely no respect for the members working FREE FOR THE PARTY EVERY DAY !!!!!

        I am not going to be working to try to…[Read more]

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    • John,
      I’ll do my best to address your questions…
      A) there are technically/officially no rules that prevent him from running. There is however an understanding that as interim Leader one would not run for the permanent position. Again, the board has yet to meet so no official decision has been taken yet.
      B) the national board has not met yet so…[Read more]

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      • Thanks Andre but the most important part to me in your reply is this….

        ”””” the motion has not been put forward yet because the national board has not met yet. Mike said that the Party would be the first to know when a decision is made. I see no reason to not believe him.”””

        What Motion?
        He signed that HE WOULD NOT SEEK THE LEADERSHIP
        He has…[Read more]

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        • Sorry John, my bad. You brought up the notion of a motion so I used it in my response. I really have no idea whether or not there is a motion because I am not on the national board so I am not privy to their discussions.
          If you want to submit a motion, as I suggested earlier, you should contact your PTA President. I would also encourage you to…[Read more]

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    • On rae….

      “”"”"”I think that depends on whether you think the Liberals have a chance without him at the helm. If you’re of the mind that someone else in the party (or on the outskirts of it) could make for a good leader and drag this party from its lowly depths in the polls, then obviously this is an egregious suggestion. If you’re…[Read more]

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    • John…
      Sure… it’s possible that there might be a draft motion somewhere… and maybe not. Any member of the NB can draft up any number of motions and request they be brought up at a scheduled meeting of the Board… but as is the case with any Board… there may already be a protocol in place that governs how motions are brought forward for…[Read more]

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      • I wonder if we could ask member to use a fellow member’s usual version of his name. for instance Mr. Rae’s commonly used short form is Bob, not Bobby. This is annoying and it indicates either a lack of respect or an lack of knowledge. One doesn’t refer to Marc Garneau as Marky or John McCallum as Johnnnie so I think we could respect decorum…[Read more]

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        • johnny here…john if you like

          …..”"This is annoying and it indicates either a lack of respect or an lack of knowledge”"”

          Call it what you like …I do disagree though …..myself I just think it rolls off the tongue better ….and is very common

          If I had said robert rae would it be any different?

          And I am quite certain it has been used…[Read more]

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    • Whether Rae is allowed to run isn’t my issue. It’s why the membership as a whole wasn’t consulted by way of a simple survey on such an important decision.

      I’m quickly losing faith as to real renewal that shows Canadians that the Liberal Party is different and that their and our voices actually means a damn. So far it’s the same old backroom…[Read more]

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      • Hi Christopher,
        I just need to clarify something from a strictly governance point of view… considering that all decisions taken by the national board are important, based on your comment, should they be putting out a survey every time they are in such a position? My concern is that this would tremendously slow things up and possibly halt many…[Read more]

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        • I would think that allowing Rae to break his pledge and give him a large advantage over other leadership candidates is not on par with decisions on administrative issues.

          ’Renewal’ means doing things differently.

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  • Jeff Rybak posted an update 1 month, 4 weeks ago

    With due respect to everyone who has strong opinions about the #leadershiprace let’s please remember we’re all on the same team here. I have my views also, but when you hear them from me (as you probably will eventually) I’ll be expressing them in positive terms about the candidate I support rather than in negative terms about any other…[Read more]

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  • Bob Rae can’t run for leader. He knew that when he took on the job as interim leader #leadershiprace

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    • The National Post is reporting that the Board can’t do much to stop him, so if he runs, let’s hope we get some quality candidates also running so we have a choice. I would hope too that the board sets some strict spending limits because I think Rae has a tremendous advantage monetarily over other would-be opponents. That’s one reason why very…[Read more]

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  • #environment
    Good evening everyone,
    I hope you are having a lovely week; I am just back from speaking in Calgary and Washington.
    By the way, I hope you have signed the Liberal petition regarding Mr Harper’s cuts to the environment–we are up over 20,000 now. This matters profoundly.
    I have been posting most recently on #environment-2: so my…[Read more]

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    • Kirsty: Thank-you for posting this…I feel betrayed by my Conservative MP Randy Kamp(who is parliamentary secretary to the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) who assured me that changes that were being considered would continue to protect fish habitats….I know that now to be an untruth……It makes me want to redouble my efforts to help see…[Read more]

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      • Dear Patrick,

        Hello, warm wishes, and always lovely to hear from you.

        Patrick, this is a very sad time for the environment. If you are interested in any of my previous three columns on the environment for IPOLITICS, please…[Read more]

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    • Hi Kristy, what is the LPC postion on the Northern Gateway pipeline?

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      • Let the regulatory agency do its work. We will not interfere with the process, as the Conservatives are, nor will we pre-judge its outcome, as the NDP are. We can’t be against a regulatory regime WE SET UP. #environment

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        • which regulatory agency are we talking about, and when the process is being corrupted do we not take a positon? Are you for or against the pipeline?

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          • You asked the 64 million dollar question DG. If the govt of Canada is taking sides and pinch hitting for Enbridge why are we just standing around wringing our hands crying…
            ‘ Look, look what those vandal are doing to the systen we set up, isn’t it a scandal!’
            Yeesh, no wonder any one who want anything done on this file are going over to the…[Read more]

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  • http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1181079–federal-budget-2012-opposition-to-budget-bill-galvanizing

    We as Liberals should be in the forefront on this issue. It is in my opinion and that of many other Canadians, the definitive issue of our time. The consequences of this Bill are so far reaching and so damaging to our country…[Read more]

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    • In the current discussion of the budget legislation referring back to Bob Rae’s budget speech on March 31, ( http://www.liberal.ca/newsroom/blog/watch-bob-raes-postbudget-speech-live-1pm/ ) may explained why, once again, we may be seen as not taking a strong position. I would assume, that the Leader speech on this topic, is a reflection of party…[Read more]

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      • Liberals need to speak out about this omnibus bill. and they had better do it soon, or we are going to lose people. There are a lot of Liberals wondering where the party is.. So we will have to do it ourselves..

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      • To be fair to Mr. Rae’s speech, it was given 2 days after the budget was released. At this time the biggest thing in the news about the budget was “killing the penny”. A budget that size with all the hidden “goodies” took our national media a couple of weeks to digest and analyze.

        What bothers me more than Mr Rae’s initial speech is the…[Read more]

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  • I’d like to thank the LPC(O) for inviting me to speak at their AGM this past weekend. I truly enjoyed being there, and I enjoyed meeting all those wonderful Liberals who I have only met on-line before, including Jarek and Doug and others from here on Liberal.ca

    Perhaps my biggest take away from the LPC(O) AGM is how different the party in…[Read more]

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    • You’re right on Brian about ”sharing” across PTA boundaries. The last thing we need right now is to become exclusive, instead in inclusive.

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    • Kudos Brian! You are doing a yeoman’s work on rebuilding the party…

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    • Definitely, the AGM was a great opportunity to meet, discuss and learn. A change to meet our forum ”activists” doesn’t happen very often. Nothing can replace a personal contact and a shake of hand with a fellow Liberals.

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    • Hi Brian, It was great to see you at the AGM. Do you have any thoughts on specific areas where LPCBC is stronger than LPC(O) and vice versa, particularly where those strengths can be used to overcome any common challenges? Needless to say, learning from each other would be a good thing.

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      • Thanks for the question Joel! It was great seeing you again at the AGM!

        I’m going to preface this answer. When I was first trained in project management training, I was very much attached to the process I was certified in. I would have arguments with people about why the process I knew was better than their process. They, of course, would…[Read more]

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        • Brian, WOW! You’ve obviously put a lot of thought into this. Thanks for the response. It is great to have people with your dedication and knowledge of party operations in the party.

          There is a lot there to digest. I hear you about commitment to a good process being more important than the details of the process itself (assuming it is a workable…[Read more]

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    • I just want to say, Brian, that of everyone I might have heard present at a convention, your comments resonate the most because I know you walk the walk. I’m far more involved these days thanks to your direct influence. That’s something we can all do – reaching out to folks who are pushing at the margins but aren’t sure where to grab hold. …[Read more]

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  • Kirsty Duncan posted an update 3 months ago

    #environment
    Hello everyone.
    I hope you are all well, and I am hoping to see many of you in Toronto this weekend.
    As you will know, the government is gutting environmental oversight with bill C-38, the budget implementation bill.
    Last Friday, I called for the government to hive-off the environmental sections from the bill so that a clause by…[Read more]

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    • Keep pounding Kirsty. Slowly, bit by bit non liberal critics of the govt’s anti environment agenda are coming forward to register principled objections – Tom Simmonds from the Mulroney era yesterday on cbc’s the current. In some ways this is your audience, that and principled members of this govt who are prepared to risk the wrath of a…[Read more]

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    • Look at the fish in my avatar picture, it represents for me, recreation, and food. That one fish is good for 6-8 meals for 2 of us. For small native communities it represents a substantial part of their annual food. The do not have the money or the supermarkets to replace this fish when an oil spill occurs. It is easy for big business to say…[Read more]

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    • Kristy is the LPC for or against the Northern Gateway pipeline. The oil can be shipped along the existing TCP corridor, we do not need a new corridor .

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  • #website
    It pains me to say that many RAs don’t have any web presence at all; not even the generic subdomain provided via Liberal University.

    If we as a party are going to go anywhere but down, there needs to be a fire lit under some behinds in those ridings without MPs.

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    • I agree
      The summer is not the time to get much done politically though

      We should be preparing

      Can anyone list which ridings need work please

      I would like to help in close places
      If we dont do it who will?

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      • It’s the wrong place to get it, but I went to Elections Canada and got about as far as ‘C’ in Ontario. About 1/3 had nothing at all, another third had generic templates with no real riding information and of the remaining third, half were generics with some RA information and the rest had their own domains and were well maintained.

        Rather a…[Read more]

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        • Thank you
          Yes it should be addressed here and any in nearby ridings should get things happening

          I will try to see where in BC or vancouver needs work

          Andre ?? maybe you would or could help here please

          Mike Crawley should give a list to members who can help with this also eh??

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          • Your RA president should be able to get you access to Liberalist if you want to be a volunteer. I’m in the SD&SG riding and am assisting in getting the website updated and relevant.

            I have access to Liberalist now and am getting my head around finding current and past volunteers that are desperately needed to help rebuild a Liberal presence in…[Read more]

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            • Well Brain Rice is here once in a while and maybe he can give some idea of where I would go

              How do I get this ”liberallist” ? RA ? regional something?

              Contact my EDA Pres? is that what you mean Christopher?

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    • We’re always looking for volunteers to help our in their ridings with websites! use http://liberal.ca/riding to find your riding and contact your riding president to get in touch and offer your support directly to them!

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      • That’s how I was able to get access, although we had a face-to-face meeting beforehand.

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      • Thanks to both of you
        But I have done that and am now also on our EDA exec
        But no one said anything about a website
        Or other ridings needing help getting set up

        My EDA Pres is Al Payne maybe I will ask him directly where else I can be used

        Cheers

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        • You can request a website from Liberal University. It will be a subdomain of liberal.ca (www.yourriding.liberal.ca) an is in WordPress, relatively simple way to create pages, posts and comments.

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    • Agreed, it has been quite difficult to find some official Liberal presence in many ridings.

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  • #environment-pipelines
    It’s probably not an original thought, but since supertankers are required to be double hulled, why shouldn’t pipelines be required to be the same? A spill would leak into the outer pipeline which would have monitors to detect the weight of the spilled oil.

    It’s not as if the oil companies can’t afford it.

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    • Interesting thought. Maybe because they never thought of it, or maybe after it did leak, after shutting it down, they would then have to cut into the outer hall to get to the leaking inner hall, patch it up, then try to clean up the oil that leaked for miles between the two pipes, which would be impossible to clean up, then patch up the outer hall.

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      • I expect there is a solution for that as well, possibly valves in strategic locations.

        I’m curious as to how it’s done on a supertanker, which is far more problematic as the spilled oil in the outer hull would have to be evenly distributed somehow or else the weight shift would cause serious balance issues.

        Single pipes aren’t the answer,…[Read more]

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  • Stilianos Kalatzis posted an update 1 month ago

    #supporter #Senate reform.
    I am not sure if there are other members that feel the senate should be either abolished or an elected body.
    I am and have been a proud Liberal for many years and know senate reform is not on the Liberal agenda but I think it’s about time we look into this issue.
    I for one feel it’s an outdated requirement of a…[Read more]

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    • I agree that the senate should be modernized. My preference would be for the senate to have equal representation from all provinces (say 10 each), plus one from each territory and maybe 4 seats for first nations (Metis and Inuit included). I would also suggest that it be the responsibility of the provincial governments to appoint their allocated…[Read more]

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