• Stéphane Boisvert posted an update 3 months ago

    I’m pleased to inform everyone of a few new #website features. some are easily apparent, such as the voting tools. Others such as what happens when something goes up to +6 or +12 or -3 or -6 will soon become apparent. (Don’t worry no content will ever be removed just because people disagree with it!).
    But on that note, there is the ability to…[Read more]

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  • #leadershiprace Well done Mr Rae – thank you!

    Your selfless decision may well have saved this party. You appear to have saved the NB from needing to make a difficult choice (or a least made it a moot point). Although, personally, I would still like to hear from the board affirming that they “were” going to stick to the rules made last…[Read more]

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  • #LeadershipRace

    Wasn’t one of the (very good) reasons for having the interim leader we selected not eligible to run for the permanent position so that we would have stable leadership during the “rebuilding” process?

    Wasn’t part of the reason so that, at this juncture, we would not need to select a new interim leader?

    Didn’t all this…[Read more]

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    • Rae’s Play (Calgary Grit, June 12.12) – ”Rae has milked the interim leader title for all its worth” – http://www.calgarygrit.ca/?p=3729

      (Jane Taber, G&M, May.18.11) – Bob the Rebuilder forfeits run at permanent Liberal leadership -…[Read more]

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    • Agree about how Rae has done for us as Interim Leader. As opposed to his eligibility, what I’m really hoping for is that the board deems him eligible, but he declines to run of his own free will. That would ultimately be the best. One thing that has kept us on the radar during the NDP leadership race was that Mr. Rae was a wild card in terms…[Read more]

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      • Hugh,

        Not sure I agree, though I see your point. Wouldn’t the same speculation regarding whether or not Bob planned to run simply have been redirected to other potential candidates stirring the same, if not greater, interest in the Party throughout this period?

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        • Possibly. I guess I was looking for a scenario where the LPC leadership was acting more clever than one would otherwise be lead to believe. The one thing that 1 year ago Bob Rae offered us was someone who would attract attention (both good and bad) more so than any other interim leader, and when you’re in 3rd place, any publicity is good. Given…[Read more]

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    • “”"Liberal party president Alfred Apps said the interim leader had only once — in the case of Michael Ignatieff — been appointed permanent leader and he believed any interim leader would abide by the rules barring a run at the permanent post.

      “This is an honourable party. I think everyone involved in this are honourable people,” Mr. Apps…[Read more]

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  • #leadershiprace I agree with all that Mr. Rae is a good statesman and has done an excellent job as interim leader. However, I also am disappointed that he is being allowed to run. I think the last several elections have been telling us that liberals want a change and fresh outlook on things. As I said, I think he has done a good job as…[Read more]

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    • I am disappointed that he wants to run.

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    • The point about needing young people is an argument for the real race, not for whether Bob should be allowed to run. That said, I do agree that he shouldn’t be allowed, considering the position he’s had as Interim leader and the promises he made to not run…no matter what, him deciding to run makes the LPC look like dishonourable liars whether…[Read more]

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    • If he breaks his word with this what stops him on anything else??
      No one is drafting him…no one pushing him

      It again makes us look silly and being dictated to by some small group in ottawa
      I wonder who else was qualified to be interim and didn’t do it because of the RULE he is soon ignoring????

      If it said the party cabal would get together…[Read more]

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      • Just what would Mr. Rae bring to the Liberal leadership that would be detrimental to this party? And don’t repeat the vow nonsense, because there was no vow. he only agreed to refrain from running for the leader while serving as interim leader. i really am interested to know why people object to his candidacy, and/ or his potential leadership. I…[Read more]

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  • Bill Moses posted an update 2 months ago

    One would presume that the reason for this forum is to draw people together, to achieve some kind of consensus as to direction. At the moment we can agree that we don’t like Harper but we have to go deeper than that.

    One way would be to have people compose essays (50 words maximum) as to what we are all about. I believe the 50 word maximum…[Read more]

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  • Paul Browne posted an update 1 month ago

    #cannabis I support legalization of cannabis. I too used to be in the other camp working in the criminal justice field. Much of what we are told about cannabis is false. I think decriminalization is not the answer as the production and distribution would remain in the hands of criminals. Legalize it, regulate it, tax it.

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  • #leadershiprace
    My vote is totally up for grabs. But, I like how Deborah Coyne used the term “Issues based race” Lets keep this race to the issues and evidence based, non- ideological policies.
    I want to put any potential candidates on notice that anyone who attacks another candidate personally will lose my vote. If everyone does it, I…[Read more]

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    • I agree that personal attacks shouldn’t happen, but I hope you weren’t excluding factual attacks, ie, going after a candidate’s policy.

      Because otherwise, you are expecting an NDP leadership race, where after each debate, the NDP sang “Kum by ya my Lord”, and after they elected their new leader, they sang “Joy to the World.”

      The NDP…[Read more]

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      • I agree with Jeff. There is no place in the leadership race for ad hominem personal attacks.

        In addition, there is a huge difference between saying “I disagree with your position on x for the following reasons; and here’s the evidence supporting my stance” and saying simply “you’re a complete idiot for taking that position.”

        The former is…[Read more]

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    • The more people that run means that more ideas for how to move the party forward will be out there. I know there will be some issues that will be very divisive and there will no doubt be some strong opinions and spirited debate. Unlike some posters on these boards I believe all opinions should be aired as this encourages healthy debate. I…[Read more]

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  • Jeff Rybak posted an update 1 month, 3 weeks ago

    Along with most of the Liberal Party, I’m very surprised that Bob Rae won’t be running for leader. And like many I’m relieved. But not because of the controversy surrounding his promise not to run or because of his difficult history with Ontario. Only because he is seen by far too many Liberals as a quick fix to our problems and it’s…[Read more]

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    • Well said Jeff but as a foot note I will say layton and his cane….the real star…. walked into quebec and made the sherbrooke declaration…..51% was all that was needed
      The people had tried for years and had even created their own party to hear that

      Not one media exposed it for what it was a lie
      No media outside of quebec explained what he…[Read more]

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      • John, I’m glad someone else sees that Layton wasn’t the saint that everyone thought he was. No one wants to speak ill of the dead but what Layton did in the last election was sign a pact with the devil. His 50% plus one declaration, which he repeated in the French debate and instantly sucked the wind out of Gilles Duceppe’s sails was a tactic…[Read more]

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  • In April when we elect the new leader of the Liberal Party, we all need to be wise enough to choose someone who will not only excite existing Liberals and reflect their values, but also someone who can inspire those currently in the Conservative, NDP, or Green camps, or on the sidelines for that matter, to consider returning to or…[Read more]

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    • Interesting you mention Mr. Leblanc. He has a much lower profile nationally than say Trudeau or Rae, but that means he is a smaller target and one that will be more difficult to hit. The National Post ran an article about who Canadians favour as their leader. Obviously Trudeau was at the top of the list because that’s the only name (along with…[Read more]

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      • Hugh,

        I agree. I would also note that while Dominic LeBlanc may currently lack the name recognition of Justin Trudeau, he would surely become a household name just as soon as he won the election when every Canadian paper put out a bio of the new Liberal Leader. More importantly, he has the political charisma and wit not only needed to deflect…[Read more]

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    • Dominic LeBlanc, really? The former GG’s son, just like the former diplomat’s son…who was the first to rush to endorse Michael Ignatieff? The Cons are probably already writing the attack ads for ”Ignatieff 2.0” … oh, look. Another silver spoon wants to run the Liberal Party.

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      • Margreta,

        Should we not be electing the best candidate for the job based upon their own merits rather than with respect to who their father is? And while Ignatieff did not prove to be a successful candidate, he is a capable and intelligent man and I probably would have rushed to endorse his candidacy too. Does that mean I should never run for…[Read more]

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        • Jonathan you seem to have missed the point: how he will be branded by the Cons. And the NDP who exploit every opportunity to attack the Liberals as elitist, and ”not like you and me” will be only too happy to reinforce that image. I didn’t express any opinion on what kind of leader he would be, only how he will be branded.

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          • Margreta,

            No matter who we elect as leader they will surely suffer negative branding from the Conservatives. While the Conservatives may choose to brand Dominic LeBlanc as elitist due to his pedigree, I would say that such an assault would be the least of our concerns compared to the image issues faced by Bob Rae or potentially Justin Trudeau. …[Read more]

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            • I think the really clever candidate is going to let everyone else’s message get a bit stale, then announce they are going to run. Completely steal their thunder, the media will want to know all about them. And given the comments around many forums, including this “Community” people are not interested in former contenders. Since the board and/or…[Read more]

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  • As the Liberal Advocate for #Cooperatives, I believe that it is important to reach out, to meet with representatives of organizations, and to get out into the community to have a better understanding of the reality of Canada’s cooperatives.

    It is in that spirit that I attended part of the 2012 Annual General Meeting of the Co-operative Housing…[Read more]

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  • Bob Rae:

    Thank you, you did the right thing for the Liberal Party.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/rae-wont-seek-liberal-leadership/article4255399/

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    • In line with what I wrote in my last comment, Bob Rae has clearly demonstrated that ’No legacy is so rich as honesty.’
      Here’s hoping that now Dominic LeBlanc will announce his candidacy. That would be an effective strategy to win the support of the Atlantic’s who surely wont be voting Conservative after changes are made to EI and OAS.

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  • #leadershiprace
    I just read that Bob is not going to run. Much as I like him personally and would trust him to babysit my kids if they were still young, a new face is needed if the party is going to make a real noise in the next election.

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    • I also want to add my thanks to Bob for the great job he has done as interim leader and for doing the honourable thing by keeping his word. Bob, I thank you and hope you stay on in a senior capacity.

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    • I think Bob is doing exactly what I thought he would. Keep the attacks on himself as long as possible to let the other possible candidates get more experience in the house. Now, Dominic LeBlanc please step forward and announce your intentions.

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      • Mary Leigh: I agree with you about the selflessness of Mr. Rae’s act….

        I’m displeased with fellow Liberals who have shown the nasty side of politics before he made public his decision.

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  • So this is the big day National Board! Your chance to define who and what the LPC is, whether we can be trusted and whether we have the common sense needed to run a country.

    Will we find out today that we are a party of principal? A party able to make good rules and stick to them? A party that is able to keep the promises made to its membership?…[Read more]

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  • Adam Goldenberg, former chief speechwriter to Michael Ignatieff cogently argues here why Bob Rae should not run for leadership of the Liberal Party. His thoughts, at the very least, merit consideration. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/second-reading/only-liberals-can-forgive-bob-raes-original-sin/article4241192/

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  • #leadershiprace:Besides everything else, can you imaging what a gift it would be to the CPC if Mr. Rae were to run for the leadership? Better than Christmas. And I’m saying this as someone who admires (used to admire?) him.

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  • Brian Rice posted an update 2 months ago

    The other day an acquaintance of mine, someone I have worked with for a number of years but isn’t a close friend – but someone I respect – gave me a pretty blunt appraisal of myself and my interactions with some people in the party. It was hard to hear, and yes I was angry at first. I even considered, briefly, quitting the party in a huff.

    But…[Read more]

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  • Kirsty Duncan posted an update 2 months ago

    #environment-2
    Hello everyone!
    As Jennifer rightly points out, tomorrow is BLACKOUTSPEAKOUT, which invites businesses, citizens and organizations from across Canada to darken their websites on June 4th, and speak out against changes introduced in the Conservative government’s Bill C-38.
    The campaign says: “Our land, water, climate are all…[Read more]

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    • Thank you, so very much Kirsty. I appreciate all you do.

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      • Dear Jennifer,

        And I am inspired whenever you write–thank you so much for your input.
        Sending good wishes,
        Kirsty

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    • Kristy Duncan makes me proud to be from Toronto. We need more like her

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    • Speaking out against changes being brought about through the Budget Bill, C-38, is important. I question, though, the practicality of adding a ‘black-out’ grey overlay to the website. This will not influence Bill C-38 in any way. All it does is create accessibility issues for visually impaired site visitors who have a difficult enough time…[Read more]

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  • Jeff Rybak posted an update 2 months, 1 week ago

    The #LPC is getting press again as the “real opposition party” by smartly teaming up with #ElizabethMay and the Greens to propose substantive amendments to (and, incidentally, delay) the Conservative overhaul of just about everything in Canada. You can read the article in the Globe but the punchline here is that May, as a technically…[Read more]

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  • #policy #platform #website

    Yesterday @maryanne-kampouris was kind enough to direct me to some LPC policy papers on this site – thank you very much Maryanne!

    These documents can be found at: http://www.liberal.ca/party/documents/ at the bottom of the page under “Other Documents”.

    For all those asking “who we are” and “what we stand for”…[Read more]

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    • Thanks for the note Martin. There are several things we need to do to make the Policy discussion / information piece a single coherent venue. We are gratefully reading and accepting any suggestions and we will pilot / test as we go.

      Maryanne

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      • Thanks Maryanne, that’s great to hear, and I think it crosses topics with discussion about what’s “wrong” with this present discussion space. Likely nothing is wrong with it at all, save that people are trying to have more involved conversations and this space doesn’t suit that format well. So if the more substantial discussion moved to…[Read more]

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    • I can not resist of sharing my thought. The excitement caused by discovering the place where our party documents can be perused is like a discovering a hidden treasure. It is like our party – we know that the we posses unmatched ideas, proposals and visions but we are not sure where to find them and how to present them. Here is my find from one…[Read more]

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      • So Jarek, are you saying I’m not the only one who didn’t know these were there?

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        • Are you implying that there are just two of us :-).

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          • Gentlemen, I have it on good authority that there are many members who seem to need assistance in finding this site. Please spread the word that this information is available and how to find it.

            Also, be assured that people are reading these posts and that the more people who participate, the more we can exchange ideas.

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      • I alwasy assume that most people would browse through the main menu and find the Documents page. i know i’ve linked to it a few times last fall and into the winter… I didn’t think it was that hard to find.

        None-the-less, Martin… I am glad you discovered it. :-)

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    • At various times over my career in IT I have launched groups of QA testers that are designed to imitate “joe-user”. One of the problems with people that use web sites and forums on a regular basis is they assume that everyone does and is as savvy as they are. There is also an assumption, by organizations in general, that anyone who visits a site…[Read more]

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      • From a usability/accessibility standpoint, I agree with Martin… it shouldn’t take much to improve access to other pages.

        The right side-bar has five large image-based ad blocks from “Liberal Boutique” down to Liberal University”. They are great, but they take up a lot of real estate. The header also takes up a lot of vertical real…[Read more]

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        • That sounds like a good idea … I was suggesting a simple link in the top menu bar as the ”cheapest and easiest” solution.

          The only other thing I would add to Doug’s comment is … let’s be sure to call it what it is, what people are looking for … they are not looking for ”Useful References” they are looking for POLICY and PLATFORM.

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      • Well argued Martin, Joe/Jane Canadian are who we want to talk with, thus we need mechanisms that are simple and direct…

        And thank you Doug for your technical suggestions and the offers of support. Maryanne

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  • Today in #Toronto, #RobFord garnered quite a bit of praise for finally appearing at a public event in support of the gay community. And frankly, good for him. I don’t particularly like Rob Ford, I disagree with most of his policies, I loath his approach to public discourse, but I’ll give praise where praise is due. Good for him. He’s a…[Read more]

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    • I agree wholeheartedly. The Liberal party isn’t about telling people what they should believe it’s about asking them.

      I think Bob Rae very eloquently spoke to this concept in his “Social policy speech” (Vancouver YWCA, Jan 28).

      A few quotes from the speech:

      “The conversation about policy has to go well beyond any particular political party…[Read more]

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    • Jeff,
      We have to be carefull about changing positions on issues. If our original position was evidence based then any change should be made because of evidence and not because our original position was unpopular. A consistent message goes a long way towards building a relationship with the electorate. I know that in the west we have a lot of work…[Read more]

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      • Hi Jim

        I won’t say that I entirely disagree. We need to be careful, for example, about changing our positions on things at the drop of a hat. But despite our new mantra of “evidence based policy” as the solution to all our ills, we can’t lose sight of the fact that conclusions from evidence have as much to do with the evidence you pay heed…[Read more]

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        • Jeff,
          when I was a young man voting for the first time Canadians new what the Liberal Party of Canada stood for. It stood for a united, bilinqual, multicultural Canada.
          The reason they knew it was because Pierre Trudeau never stopped reminding them of it.
          The same can be said for the party position with regard to the constitution and for…[Read more]

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          • Please excuse the spelling errors. Thankfully my daughter who is an english teacher won’t get to see this post.

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            • @Jim – I don’t actually think we disagree at all. We definitely need to refine our messaging to Canadians, and it can’t be as generic or as baldly brokerage as “we want to be the party you want!” At the same time, we can’t commit narrowly or immovably to a specific set of policy positions. Your example of Trudeau’s messaging illustrates…[Read more]

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