Questcap wrote:
Speaking from "experience" is also called anecdotal... and means very little. Why does your experience count more than what we can see and read is going on among relatively large numbers in certain geographical areas, where technically, it's not okay to be an American anymore?

do you live in those areas, or is this less than anecdotal?

care to tell us how it´s `not ok to be an american anymore´? have they stripped you of your citizenship? denied you protection under the constitution? stopped your right to vote? stopped you buying bacon at wally world?

Questcap wrote:
According to Islam... that WAS the precedent... the "prophet" did it!

do you remember jerry lee lewis encountering a shitstorm when he came to england in 1958 and admitted to the press he had LEGALLY (as in allowed under the laws of his state) married his 13 year old cousin? legally you could marry girls as young as 11 in some states as late as the start of the 20th century.

i take it you do know that the marrige of underage girls is still allowed in certain states

now from your inference, and using the same standards, you live in a nation of pedophiles.

mohammed lived 1500 years ago when ALL denominations took child brides - not right by modern standards (well, unless you live in states that allow it), but a very long time ago.

are you sure you want to continue down this road?

yamaleidy wrote:
When did you ask all these "white Christians" their religion of choice,before or after they committed all these crimes against you and yours? Seriously dude,you sound a little ridiculous and paranoid.

my irony meter just exploded screaming

waterlogged3261 wrote:


WOW. Sounds like a brutal life!. I'm starting to feel like we are being "punked" here???

nope, just a normal life of a biker since the end of the 70´s

waterlogged3261 wrote:
But honestly, I've never been offended by a muslum personally either. Unless you consider the attacks on this country personal.

then why treat the whole with suspicion, fear, and hatred? it is paranoid and goes against christian teachings.

waterlogged3261 wrote:
And BTW.. no quivering here...I said prepared...not scared.
It's an american thing you probably don't understand.

the impression i get is you guys over there need the bogeyman - something to focus and point a finger at.

waterlogged3261 wrote:
I wish you all the best. You seem like an angry guy and I hope you can find some peace in your life.
There is SO MUCH overwhelming evidence to what people here are trying to convey. But by all means, don't let truth and facts get in the way of your thinking.

i´m not an angry person. i won´t make generalisations about a person based on their race or faith - assholes come in all colours and faiths - because i found life is not like that.

i was born less than 20 years after they were shovelling people into ovens based on their faith, and when i see similarities in the thinking of some - blaming a whole religion for the ills and acts of a minority, and inventing stupid stories to back up their hate - then i will stand up and make a noise about it

you need to ask yourself `what would jesus do?´

erizo wrote:
davej wrote:



Now this was a assn9 post. Being burglarized or beat up is a far cry different than a country being attacked by a culture of people that vow to do it again and kill Americans. Your post are usually more thought out and intelligent than this one.

my irony meter just redlined

the u.s. was attacked by al-quaeda - yes, an islamic terrorist group - in an act that was condemned loudly and publicly by the heads of muslim communities in the u.s. and muslim leaders worldwide (well, the ones who´s countries we in the west hadn´t screwed with).

you read what i posted and call it asinine, and then go and say exactly the same thing, the difference being, i was saying that very tongue in cheek, but you´re serious!

to claim that the entire muslim population worldwide is out to get you is both paranoid and asinine

There you go with another Mis-guided assn9 statement. I did in fact post this earlier

"This is what happened when they moved in and took control in a small Polish community in Hamtramck Mi. I also live about 1 mile from another city that has been taken over by them. Dearborn and Dearborn Hts mi. where they are about 1/2 million strong. Some are good people and bringing good things to the neighborhoods, but most are doing nothing but scamming the American system and sending the money back to their old country. Here is a video of what may be coming to a city near you."


Every time I read that I am almost positive that, that statement specifically expels the thought that "All" are bad. That is just you trying to again be a wordsmith with everyones statements. You are Trolling again and it seems to be working. What do you really think you are gonna accomplish here??? Do you really think you are gonna convert any Americans to your way of thinking? BTW there are people from other cultures and religions that I could do without to. But the same goes with them it's not all just some. Funny thing is "NONE" of them ever attacked my country either. I guess I'm a Bigot. The difference between us is that I will admit it You won't. Everyone has a little in them. Admit it or not!!!!

davej wrote:
There you go with another Mis-guided assn9 statement. I did in fact post this earlier

"This is what happened when they moved in and took control in a small Polish community in Hamtramck Mi. I also live about 1 mile from another city that has been taken over by them. Dearborn and Dearborn Hts mi. where they are about 1/2 million strong. Some are good people and bringing good things to the neighborhoods, but most are doing nothing but scamming the American system and sending the money back to their old country. Here is a video of what may be coming to a city near you."

you also posted this....

davej wrote:

different than a country being attacked by a culture of people that vow to do it again and kill Americans.


davej wrote:
Every time I read that I am almost positive that, that statement specifically expels the thought that "All" are bad.

the one before it contradicts that statement

davej wrote:
That is just you trying to again be a wordsmith with everyones statements. You are Trolling again and it seems to be working. What do you really think you are gonna accomplish here??? Do you really think you are gonna convert any Americans to your way of thinking?

no, but that doesn´t mean i have to shut up

davej wrote:
BTW there are people from other cultures and religions that I could do without to. But the same goes with them it's not all just some. Funny thing is "NONE" of them ever attacked my country either. I guess I'm a Bigot. The difference between us is that I will admit it You won't. Everyone has a little in them. Admit it or not!!!!

oh i can be an asshole as much as anyone else for sure (you might have noticed ), but i tend to judge people as individuals, not for the actions of a minority.

so, what would jesus do?

erizo wrote:
davej wrote:
There you go with another Mis-guided assn9 statement. I did in fact post this earlier

"This is what happened when they moved in and took control in a small Polish community in Hamtramck Mi. I also live about 1 mile from another city that has been taken over by them. Dearborn and Dearborn Hts mi. where they are about 1/2 million strong. Some are good people and bringing good things to the neighborhoods, but most are doing nothing but scamming the American system and sending the money back to their old country. Here is a video of what may be coming to a city near you."

you also posted this....

davej wrote:

different than a country being attacked by a culture of people that vow to do it again and kill Americans.




davej wrote:
Every time I read that I am almost positive that, that statement specifically expels the thought that "All" are bad.

the one before it contradicts that statement

davej wrote:
That is just you trying to again be a wordsmith with everyones statements. You are Trolling again and it seems to be working. What do you really think you are gonna accomplish here??? Do you really think you are gonna convert any Americans to your way of thinking?

no, but that doesn´t mean i have to shut up

davej wrote:
BTW there are people from other cultures and religions that I could do without to. But the same goes with them it's not all just some. Funny thing is "NONE" of them ever attacked my country either. I guess I'm a Bigot. The difference between us is that I will admit it You won't. Everyone has a little in them. Admit it or not!!!!

oh i can be an asshole as much as anyone else for sure (you might have noticed ), but i tend to judge people as individuals, not for the actions of a minority.

so, what would jesus do?

I don't know what Jesus would do. But I doubt he would Troll! And there you go with your wordsmithing again in this whole post!!!

davej wrote:


I don't know what Jesus would do. But I doubt he would Troll! And there you go with your wordsmithing again in this whole post!!!

don´t you like me addressing each of your points?

no wordsmithing involved, just replying to individual points rather than making blanket statements

so, what would jesus do?

Jesus would, and still does speak the Truth. He says, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me". (John 14:6)
Jesus gave up his life so that any who are trapped in lies and deceit might be set free.
Jesus prayed for His enemies.
Jesus rose from the dead, conquering death so that we might have hope of doing the same.

Anyone who believes and follows teachings contrary to the inspired Word of God, and denies that Jesus is God will forever be separated from God. This separation for some will not be fun and games.

erizo wrote:
davej wrote:


I don't know what Jesus would do. But I doubt he would Troll! And there you go with your wordsmithing again in this whole post!!!

don´t you like me addressing each of your points?

no wordsmithing involved, just replying to individual points rather than making blanket statements

I'm not gonna go back and read every post but from what I remember "You" are the

"only" one that perceives any/all statements made as Americans and members here hating

"all" Muslims.

And Yes wordsmithing. Take a statement apart word for word and twist it to whatever

meaning you you think you want to whether it was the intent or meaning being put out

by the OP. You are pretty good at that. Oh and maybe you can get your friends to start

wearing name tags so we can try to tell the difference between the good and bad and

then we won't have to be so cautious and offend anyone.


Again if you have been bit by a bear you will be cautious around all bears. Most won't

attack and bite but you never know what one will. I guess you could wait and see or

just ask the bear but it would make more sense to be cautious.


You sure are way out in space with the your comments to a group of people here that

have fought wars to defend the rights of others, Most recently in the Mid East that is

predominately Muslim. Did "You" or "Yours" Go? Mine did!!!

BTW I separated my post line by line for you. Your turn