I believe in Jesus. I don't know If my religion is the right one, and I don't believe some things that are in the bible. But in my humble opinion Jesus the only think that asked from us is to be a good person, to love and respect not only our family.
So I will try to do this as much better I can.

TMK wrote:
Too serious...too silly...not appropriate for this forum...I apologize.

Ted
No, carry on. This is your thread. It can take on whatever shape you want.

It's nice to read other people's experiences on this all too important subject.

I thought Deerkiller, on page 2, said it best... there is absolute truth. Find out what it is. It's not really hard. I searched, and I found it, and I can present and defend it.

I think you all here understand that, if you believe there is a God, that the issue is RIGHTEOUSNESS, or the concept of being good enough.

The sooner you come to the correct understanding that you, me, and no one IS good enough, and that ALL are in need of the necessary righteousness, then you can move on to find out about how one actually can receive and be declared righteous... since it cannot be earned.

You're not good enough, and you can never make yourself to be good enough. The solution is not within us, my friends... it is outside, and beyond us. It resides with the God who is. And His solution has already been totally bought and paid for... and, he offers it to all as a free gift.

It's not as pana suggested, trying to be a good person. It's necessary to be good enough, or righteous... and, we aren't!

We've already been judged, and found wanting. The verdict has already been given... we're all condemned men, on death row, awaiting the carrying out of the sentence. What we are all in need of now... is a PARDON, and a new opportunity to start over.

That's what He offers, and individuals learn of that, and receive it... one person at a time!

Questcap wrote:
I thought Deerkiller, on page 2, said it best... there is absolute truth. Find out what it is. It's not really hard. I searched, and I found it, and I can present and defend it.

I think you all here understand that, if you believe there is a God, that the issue is RIGHTEOUSNESS, or the concept of being good enough.

The sooner you come to the correct understanding that you, me, and no one IS good enough, and that ALL are in need of the necessary righteousness, then you can move on to find out about how one actually can receive and be declared righteous... since it cannot be earned.

You're not good enough, and you can never make yourself to be good enough. The solution is not within us, my friends... it is outside, and beyond us. It resides with the God who is. And His solution has already been totally bought and paid for... and, he offers it to all as a free gift.

It's not as pana suggested, trying to be a good person. It's necessary to be good enough, or righteous... and, we aren't!

We've already been judged, and found wanting. The verdict has already been given... we're all condemned men, on death row, awaiting the carrying out of the sentence. What we are all in need of now... is a PARDON, and a new opportunity to start over.

That's what He offers, and individuals learn of that, and receive it... one person at a time!You missed your calling Hell of a sales pitch though if I drank Koolaid

Actually, RM, I didn't miss my calling. I'm here to tell YOU!

And, like I said... I can also defend it, but, it would appear that you are not yet of an attitude that you're willing to accept that.

And, "Hell of a sales pitch...." Nice pun!

Like the old saying goes, You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science."
-Charles Darwin-

Here's my view on religion.

I don't think this is about religion, It's about faith!

I was born into religion and spoon fed this thing that is supposed to bring people together and all I seen growing up was a cancer put in normal peoples minds that turned them into the most dishonest judgemental disagreeable people you could know. Yes I as raised in a religious fanatics home, one that was more worried what other people in the church thought of him that his family suffered because we all had to tow the fanatics line. So I left home at 17 and never visited religion since.I live by the 10 commandments and that is good enough for me.

Ah, I see. So, it would seem that you've let people put you off from what is the truth, and thrown the whole thing over for what some people did with it. I get that. I've known a good number of folks who've pretty much done the same.

Living by the 10 Commandments is all well and good, but they are also the Final Exam, and what we will be judged by. Did you ever take what wasn't yours... that's a breaking of the 8th Commandment. Ever told an untruth? That's a breaking of the 9th, and so on.

It wasn't meant to be so much our rule for life, but the measure of how far short we've fallen. An honest examination usually reveals that we have each broken all 10 of them!

Being good enough for you, may not be... good enough for the One Who judges. And, that's the real point.

This isn't about rules, do's & don'ts... it's not about Commandments, or what's good enough for you, me or anybody else.

While those are there, and there's a partial truth to all that... it's about a relationship that was broken, and how that the means of restoring it has been made, and is open and available to everyone who is willing to receive and enter into it.

It's a totally voluntary thing, and ought never to be put on anyone else by any means of others' machinations.

And, Bruiser... I mean no offense, but, I know both Darwin and real science well... and, Darwin was entirely mistaken in his theorizing. Evolution never happened, and, in fact, can't happen. Genetics was unknown in 1859, and had it been known, he would have been forced, by scientific observation, to alter his views. Any amateur study of genetics will conclusively demonstrate, by the very scientific means that he outlined in his own book, that he was in error. Evolution has NO mechanism by which it can even theorize that it ever took place... and, from that which is now known of genetics, it never did take place, and, as best anyone can determine at this point in time... it cannot.

Darwin's theory as to how he thought it might have taken place has already been conclusively proven to be false.