wanna hear some crazy stuff.. This guy was bonded out of jail thursday in this county.. Immediately he was arrested on a warrant in the next county south for theft.. he was arraigned and again bonded out this afternoon.. tonight he was arrested in Montgomery county ( Dayton) for operating a motor vehicle without a license..resisting arrest and obstructing....wonder how long he will be in this time before they turn him loose again? I wonder if they will revoke his bond from here over this? I wonder why he happened to be in Dayton?

ohiosteve wrote:
wanna hear some crazy stuff.. This guy was bonded out of jail thursday in this county.. Immediately he was arrested on a warrant in the next county south for theft.. he was arraigned and again bonded out this afternoon.. tonight he was arrested in Montgomery county ( Dayton) for operating a motor vehicle without a license..resisting arrest and obstructing....wonder how long he will be in this time before they turn him loose again? I wonder if they will revoke his bond from here over this? I wonder why he happened to be in Dayton?


How can this shit go on?

I grew up with some kids who went that route. Some of them are dead, some are now in prison, in their mid fifties. Last year a life long friend who had been on disability for the last twenty years took over his sons 'business' as his son had to go to prison for his fourth drunk driving in MI. I told my wife something was wrong and I suspected my buddy got involved in some drug shit. One day a wile back his brother called me sobbing that his brother was dead.

My buddy had been living a senior citizen complex and was raided by the DEA. he wound up living with some tool, a career criminal dope fiend. Tony had told me he had so much money he didn't know what to do with it so was keeping it in a safe at his buddy's. Well, two weeks after he was raided and they found nothing, and he was living with these idiots, he was dead. I have no doubt they did him in for his money.

It's a ll sad man. I've been a sober bastard nearly twenty years now, and have watched so many people I know die, or their kids OD, it's just sad. Right now I have one brother, and he's not doing to great in his life, IMO due to his drinking. It is obvious this accountant kid brother of mine is out there. I just this week asked my sisters to address the issue this Easter after my nephew called me this week asking for my help for his dad as he cannot reach him despite his attempts to talk. I sent my brother a text because he wont answer his phone, told him it's time to get right. There will be an intervention this Easter Holiday.

IDK, people think I'm blunt and shit, but after watching people do the things I have seen, and dying, leaving behind families and friends, I don't really care how blunt I am.

If you think someone has a problem, bring it up to them before it's too late.

DBMX925 wrote:
ohiosteve wrote:
wanna hear some crazy stuff.. This guy was bonded out of jail thursday in this county.. Immediately he was arrested on a warrant in the next county south for theft.. he was arraigned and again bonded out this afternoon.. tonight he was arrested in Montgomery county ( Dayton) for operating a motor vehicle without a license..resisting arrest and obstructing....wonder how long he will be in this time before they turn him loose again? I wonder if they will revoke his bond from here over this? I wonder why he happened to be in Dayton?


How can this shit go on?
no idea...his grandma bonded him out from here to the tune of 6000 cash...I am sure his actions last night revoked that bond and she lost her money.

GNR10 wrote:
I grew up with some kids who went that route. Some of them are dead, some are now in prison, in their mid fifties. Last year a life long friend who had been on disability for the last twenty years took over his sons 'business' as his son had to go to prison for his fourth drunk driving in MI. I told my wife something was wrong and I suspected my buddy got involved in some drug shit. One day a wile back his brother called me sobbing that his brother was dead.

My buddy had been living a senior citizen complex and was raided by the DEA. he wound up living with some tool, a career criminal dope fiend. Tony had told me he had so much money he didn't know what to do with it so was keeping it in a safe at his buddy's. Well, two weeks after he was raided and they found nothing, and he was living with these idiots, he was dead. I have no doubt they did him in for his money.

It's a ll sad man. I've been a sober bastard nearly twenty years now, and have watched so many people I know die, or their kids OD, it's just sad. Right now I have one brother, and he's not doing to great in his life, IMO due to his drinking. It is obvious this accountant kid brother of mine is out there. I just this week asked my sisters to address the issue this Easter after my nephew called me this week asking for my help for his dad as he cannot reach him despite his attempts to talk. I sent my brother a text because he wont answer his phone, told him it's time to get right. There will be an intervention this Easter Holiday.

IDK, people think I'm blunt and shit, but after watching people do the things I have seen, and dying, leaving behind families and friends, I don't really care how blunt I am.

If you think someone has a problem, bring it up to them before it's too late.
I am 51 years old and have never even smoked weed. I have zero against it just not something I have ever tried. SO all of this stuff is just odd to me. We did everything we knew to help Jake and finally it was just " THATS IT WE ARE DONE" I pretty much gave up on him and You have no idea how shitty I feel for that. Seriously what kind of parent just gives up on a kid? he was such a nice friendly good hearted person, that was also a junkie that would lie and steal and manipulate to get the drugs. Literally like 2 people. I have seen him set and bawl because in his words he was nothing but a piece of low life shit. I have seen him steal something and return it the next day just completely broken down and bawling and asking for forgiveness.... I let him go. I gave up on him. I know he made the choices but I had to be RIGHT ... I refused to look weak by reaching out a hand one more time.... My hard ass image remains intact but my son is dead. A pretty shitty trade off.

I lost my 22yo 5 years ago. Bad situation for him and he took his life. Guilt is the first powerful emotion. Was there something I could have done different??? I thought we raised him well, and I have to believe that is true. Now my youngest is 22 and really screwing up with drugs and there really is nothing I can do. Helplessness is the worst at this point. My sympathies to you Steve. It does get better but it never goes away. You live on and remember him and smile at the good times. You will always miss him. I do.

thebru wrote:
I lost my 22yo 5 years ago. Bad situation for him and he took his life. Guilt is the first powerful emotion. Was there something I could have done different??? I thought we raised him well, and I have to believe that is true. Now my youngest is 22 and really screwing up with drugs and there really is nothing I can do. Helplessness is the worst at this point. My sympathies to you Steve. It does get better but it never goes away. You live on and remember him and smile at the good times. You will always miss him. I do.
I am so sorry tobhear this.... When the deputy told us Jake was dead, thats the first thing I said to my wife was that he had killed himself. The deputy shot that down right away and said no way.... I feel for you. I hope your other son finds his way.

I am a paramedic and see a lot of this lately. Im so sorry for your loss. I have a 16 yo daughter who had a couple bad decisions regarding the crowd she was running with that almost got her in trouble with the law.

The guilt is natural but there is a healthy amount of invincibility that goes along with people who head down this path. The best parenting the world sometimes involves tough love. I told my daughter that we did not want to be talking to her through a plate of glass and not be able to help her. We are hoping the light has finally come on for her.

Again I am so sorry and send many prayers to you and your family.

ohiosteve wrote:

I am 51 years old and have never even smoked weed. I have zero against it just not something I have ever tried. SO all of this stuff is just odd to me. We did everything we knew to help Jake and finally it was just " THATS IT WE ARE DONE" I pretty much gave up on him and You have no idea how shitty I feel for that. Seriously what kind of parent just gives up on a kid? he was such a nice friendly good hearted person, that was also a junkie that would lie and steal and manipulate to get the drugs. Literally like 2 people. I have seen him set and bawl because in his words he was nothing but a piece of low life shit. I have seen him steal something and return it the next day just completely broken down and bawling and asking for forgiveness.... I let him go. I gave up on him. I know he made the choices but I had to be RIGHT ... I refused to look weak by reaching out a hand one more time.... My hard ass image remains intact but my son is dead. A pretty shitty trade off.

Don't get me wrong I am not by any means telling you you did the wrong thing. I have been sober for nearly 20 years because it's the choice I made and make every day. I know full well what addiction is in part because of those people I have lost to some form of it, and also because of the path I live. I never got into and used the drugs because I saw first hand what they did, but I don't have a problem with weed smokers. When you're a 10 year old kid and you watch your buddy's brother's friend OD in the driveway, when you see people OD and die, when you see the destruction of a family from drugs, friends go to prison, friends and family die, people beat their woman for no reason other than thinking she took their dope, well, those are just some of the things that go on in that realm and no thinks. I know people right now in their 60's who have used heroin for 40 years, every single day. It causes more deaths and mayhem, broken families and disease than all the rest combined. Six of my close friends have received madatory prison sentences of a5 years for felony drunk driving (3 alcohol related offenses in a lifetime). Some people use alcohol every day, and don't consider it a drug. The folks who don't recognize alcohol as a drug are fools. It is the single most abused drug on the planet, bar none. Like it or not that's my belief, and to the naysayers I say prove me wrong.

I know that unless someone wants to change, or doesn't want to use a substance any longer, there is nothing anybody can do other than hold that person captive beat and brainwash them in hopes of changing them. That ain't gonna happen.


I feel I truly live as a free man, my freedom is my escape and does not hinge on any substance. Most users of drugs and alcohol use the drug of their choice for various escapisms or for ways to deal with problems and feelings. People really don't know what that means unless they don't use substances for mood or feeling alteration, or for 'relaxation' purposes, that's the big alcohol marketing sell, fun, cool, relaxation and babes. Call it whatever you want, I call em all excuses or rationalizations to use. If you use (anything) and say you don't use drugs or alcohol for their affect you're a liar or a flat out weakass bitch and partake so as not to be seen as weak. LOL I know, I'm a dick.



I have a 35 year old son I don't even speak to because that's the way he wants it. There isn't a day goes by I don't think about him and miss him. I just wonder if one day I'll be notified of some bad news like his death. I don't know what he's doing, don't know where he's at, but have tried for decades to teach him and tell him things he ought know. His arrogance has become him though and I believe his narcissistic being is what it is. Nothing I can do or say will ever change that.


To you sir, I wish you the best in your life, in your struggle to understand.