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Re:This was just wrong 10 Months, 1 Week ago  
The cop should have never got involved in a high speed chase either with a car or bike over a speeding violation!! Cop should be charged with involuntary manslaughter!
 
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Re:This was just wrong 10 Months, 1 Week ago  
It's hard to tell from the video, but looking at the GPS and his brake light, it "appears" that the bike slowed down trying to get bumped. Sounds like a stupid thing to do, but not stopping is stupid too. But, I wasn't there, so that's just my lousy opinion. Still hate to see somebody killed over speeding, regardless of who's at fault. Fortunately nobody else was hurt in the chase.
 
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Re:This was just wrong 10 Months, 1 Week ago  
Nocolorbrother wrote:
The cop should have never got involved in a high speed chase either with a car or bike over a speeding violation!! Cop should be charged with involuntary manslaughter!
So cops should not do their job? Next time you need law enforcement assistance call your local drug dealer
 
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Re:This was just wrong 10 Months, 1 Week ago  
Yea the rider was wrong! But the cop has a responsibilty to the public not to endanger them. By getting involved in a high speed chase which this was over a speeding violation was not the correct thing to do! If the officer would have backed off and found the guy another day that would of been the correct action. Not trying to offend anyone just saying the police have to be held accountable for their actions just like the rest of us.
 
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Re:This was just wrong 10 Months, 1 Week ago  
Messer wrote:
Riders fault.
1 he should not have ran
2 when he crashed he was trying to get behind the cop but the car pulled over for the cop
3 he missed a gear trying to go between the cop and the car that pulled over
4 he panicked braked causing him to fishtail and crash.
if you look carefully at the dotted line the cop never swerved. Darwin wins another.
Plus think of all the people the rider put at risk by starting a chase, if he had hit a pedestrian or even hit another biker or T boned a car others could have been killed. Yes I speed (did 125ish coming from the dragon on my wing) but I make sure its somewhere that has very little to no traffic if I go that fast. this could have all been done better if the idiot had stopped for the cop.
The biker was an idiot for not stopping I agree. The cop should not of bumped him in the first place. He was close enough to get his plate number. He should of followed him or pick him up later. The chase is on video so you have all your evidence. I don't feel they should ever try to pit a motorcycle as death or serious injury is almost certain . Remember, it was just speeding. Don't they need permission to to do a pit maneuver.
 
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Re:This was just wrong 10 Months, 1 Week ago  
I just watched the full video from the start of the chase.




I was surprised the rider didn't get creamed earlier the way he was blowing through red lights @ 80+ MPH.

The biker kept slamming on his brakes and then speeding off and moving from lane, to lane as if to look like he was going to turn, but didn't. Tactics used by many on the run to fake out the cop.

There at the end he brake checked the cop again and was going to speed off and got bumped. I doubt either saw the stopped car until it was too late. He tried to move left and clipped the cop car and tried to go back right between the curb and stopped vehicle, but baggers just aren't lane splitters.

They found an ounce of pot and paraphernalia on the rider.

Not worth risking his life over thinking he'll get away.

That was my take on what I saw, anyway.

Just a bad deal that ended in a fatality.
 
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Re:This was just wrong 10 Months, 1 Week ago  
yamaleidy wrote:
He was close enough to get his plate number. He should of followed him or pick him up later. The chase is on video so you have all your evidence.

The plate number simply tells you who owns the bike (or maybe even just whose plate it is). That isn't confirmation of who was riding or why he was running.

You could grab the plate number and then end up with nothing more than waking up the owner who is discovering his bike is gone.

It may start as speeding, but once you have someone running you have to figure they have a reason. They know you have their plate and can look them up later, but they don't want you to grab them now.

It's like so much of these other stories that have been in the news. If you start out by obeying the copy you don't end up with the dramatic endings.
 
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Re:This was just wrong 10 Months, 1 Week ago  
Agree with Messer, guy should have stopped and there would have been no problem.
 
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Re:This was just wrong 10 Months, 1 Week ago  
Nocolorbrother wrote:
Yea the rider was wrong! But the cop has a responsibilty to the public not to endanger them. By getting involved in a high speed chase which this was over a speeding violation was not the correct thing to do! If the officer would have backed off and found the guy another day that would of been the correct action. Not trying to offend anyone just saying the police have to be held accountable for their actions just like the rest of us.
So lets say we hadn't read the story as to what happened and play this one out.
Guy breaks into your house and kills your family, he runs a block and steals a bike, cop notices a guy matching the killers description and he just gets the tag number and says "I'll find him another day" the killer then gets away and runs to mexico, grows a beard, shaves his head and is never seen again. Your familys killer got away because the cop DIDN'T do his job.
When someone runs they can't just assume that he did no wrong and get a tag number for another day, and a lot of places have no chopper to follow overhead with. The cop did his job, the biker was a idiot and now we have one less scumbag on the street.
Cops are held accountable but they still have to do their job and as long as they opperate within their policies they are good to go.
 
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Re:This was just wrong 10 Months, 1 Week ago  
I'm going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Feel bad for everybody involved. Glad it was not any of us!
 
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