Right now I have a ytx20L-bs, I need a battery that is at least 1 in shorter. Im building a custom seat and need as much foam as I can get. Any ideas? I was thinking a ytz14s , I believe it has 200-230 cca. Ive never had a problem with the bike starting and I dont want to.
Please Help!!!!!

Odyssey PC545.

Doc

Doc is right again!!! I got that battery and it is smaller but pack alot more punch than normal batteries.

been wanting one for a while now, just can't get the one I have now to fizzle out....

Pasted eblow is info from the mfg on that battery which i had researched in the past.

It gives a decent inital 500+ cranking amp burst but only for 5 seconds when battery is new/fresh and then after that inital burst the battery falls to a low IMHO 185cold cranking amp vs the stock requirement of 270 CCA for a stock R*

But keep in mind as the battery ages the initial 500+ amp 5 sec burst will become less like lower then 500 amps for maybe only 3-4 seconds and then will fall back to less then 185 cca when the r* should really have closer to 270cca.

At approx $140 for this GMam battery if it were my bike i'd look for a std maint free AGM battery that will fit your bike that has more steady cca thats likely cheaper too and not just a quick burst then falling back to a what i feel s a weak 185cc at best.

I found 310 & 320 cca agm maint free batt'S that ARE charged and ready to go for $75-$99 (DEPENDING ON MFG) ,no way would i want that low whimpy 185cca drop back voltage the GMAN batt has for my R* when i bet you could find a battery that has significantly more cca all the time and not just for 4-5 seconds.

I bet you could find a new maint free agm batt with better cca rating that's well above the dropback 185cca the gman batt has post its short 4-5 second higher CA burst that will fit your bike.

Just go to the Yuasa batt website which lists bike batteries in a chart by size/dimention so you can find the largest batt you can that will fit your setup ,the chart also shows terminal positions to .
You have to look arround a bit for that batt demension chart but it's there.

Anyway,here's the info i got from the mfg on the GMAN batt being reffered to here pasted below.

SCOTT

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545AMP PULSE FOR 5 SECONDS THEN IT DROPS BACK TO 185CCA / PT# PC545 2 YR WARRANTY

SEE "GMAN INDUSTIRES" WEB SITE FOR DETAILS AND APPLICATION FOR YOUR BIKE

THIS BATTERY CAN ALSO BE SEEN HERE @ SUMMIT RACING:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Odyssey-PC545-BatteryDry-Cell12-VDeep-Cycle-Starting_W0QQitemZ390118341453QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5ad4dd7b4d

I'm not a fan of the Odyssey battery for folks that store bikes for long periods of time. The battery needs tender love and care to keep it going. In hotter climates it's a very good battery. Being somewhat lazy I've had them fail much sooner than other 'normal' batteries.

Let me address Scott's CCA discussion. As most follks know, CCA is cold cranking amps or the amount on amps the batter can deliver at 0 F. Scott is right, the Odyssey is behind other batteries in this area. But then again how many of you ride at 0 F, and if you do I'd recommend a more suitable battery.

The CA (cranking amps) specifies how much power the batter can put out at 32 F and this number is more relevant for our application. For the Odyssey it's 545 cranking amps for 5 seconds, 495 cranking amps for 10 seconds and 420 cranking amps for 20 seconds. In other words, for continuous use at normal riding temps I believe this may be a very good battery.

Doc

DocShadow wrote:
Let me address Scott's CCA discussion. As most follks know, CCA is cold cranking amps or the amount on amps the batter can deliver at 0 F. Scott is right, the Odyssey is behind other batteries in this area. But then again how many of you ride at 0 F, and if you do I'd recommend a more suitable battery.

The CA (cranking amps) specifies how much power the batter can put out at 32 F and this number is more relevant for our application. For the Odyssey it's 545 cranking amps for 5 seconds, 495 cranking amps for 10 seconds and 420 cranking amps for 20 seconds. In other words, for continuous use at normal riding temps I believe this may be a very good battery.

Doc
Absolutely Correct! The SHADOW KNOWS! I worked for an outfit that manufactured aircraft batteries and the DOC is spot on when it comes to the specifications and their meanings. Well done!

Thanks for the info but i understand CA VS CCA,been dealing with them for 40 yrs.

What happened was my memeory failed me(sorry about that)in the fact that the 185 cranking amp rating i reffered to with respect to this battery was in fact as you pointed out the CCA rating @ 0 deg f & not what it drops back to post the inital higher 5 second (HI AMP) power burst which is the std CA @ 32 deg f of 240 . That 240 ca is still not that great either considering other batts with 310 cca are close to or at 400 CA at 32 deg for a longer time period then the odyessey can hold 400 ca.

I really am not trying to be a pia but i am just trying to help this guy get the best battery /most power for his money and IMHO the odessey costing $40-50 more,needing more maint,having shorter srvc life, and having 240 ca vs other batts at close 400 ca @ 32 deg doesnt cut it.(see below for specs from the odyssey batt mfg) So even though the odyessey has 500 CA amp to start with for a short time thats not needed for a stock R* and the batt type i am suggestin here that will have approx 400 CA for much longer time then odyessey has is just plan a better choice for this appplication here.

To me there are too many negatives attached to this battery to make it a worth while choice for this app which is the point i am trying to make.

Given the fact this type battery needs TLC and costs more @ approx $130-140 i still think he is sway better off simply choosing a newer generation sealed maint free AGM battery that needs no maint using the yuasa battery demension chart to get the size batt that will fit his app.

I'd find an AGM sealed maint free battey that fits his bike from the yuasa chart and use that yuasa batt pt# to cross reff over to a scorpion AGM maint free sealed battery that comes ready to go.

The stock Scorpion batt for R* has 310CCA and costs $75 inc S&H so a slightly smaller scorpion batt to fit his app would likely cost $75 or less money and would also likely end up with at least 270-280+ CCA or maybe more (But CA will be way over 300 @ 32 deg vs the other batt with 240 ca @ 32 deg) which is still very good for the R* too. A stock R* dosent need hi burst CA for the additional cost and ,more maint,and likely shorter srvc life.

But doing what i suggest will take 25-30 mins of time to find the correct dimension batt & then take that yuasa pt# & got to the Scorpion batt site to cross over to get = size batt or call them with your batt dementions needed and let them tell you what they have that fits which will take less time .

But To me its well worth the the 20-30 min investment to find a correct size battery or ccall Scorpion to get a new AGM batt & approx $40-50 , that requires no main, has 270-280+ CCA (vs only 185)and close to 400 CA vs the odyssey batts 240 CA post its inital hi power burst his stock R* doesnt need,and the agm batt should also have a longer srv'c life too.

Here's the info from the mfg on the odyessey batt i cut & pasted below.(note that when reading specs the Pulse amp rating in mfg's specs doesnt = CA or CCA which are much lower)

If interested heres the link to the Scorpion batt so you can chk out the battery & site and also call the dealer/sales office if need be .

http://www.batterystuff.com/batteries/motorcycle/sYTX20HL-BS.html


Scott

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Brand Odyssey Battery
Part Number PC545
Part Type Batteries
Product Line Odyssey Drycell Batteries
ODY-PC545 [/color]

Battery Usage Deep cycle/Starting
Volts 12 V
Battery Terminals Top
Battery Type Dry cell
Cranking Amps at 0 Degrees F 185 amps
Cranking Amps at 32 Degrees F 240 amps
Reserve Capacity 18 minutes
Length (in) 7.000 in.
Width (in) 3.370 in.
Height (in) 5.170 in.
Weight 11 lbs.

These Odyssey sealed rechargeable Drycell batteries provide engine cranking pulses in excess of 2250 Puls amps for 5 seconds and are capable of 400 deep cycles. They can be installed on their sides or at any angle.

Warranty
Odyssey Batteries are warranted for 3 years from the date of shipment (printed on the top label of the battery). This warranty applies to automotive applications only.

"I really am not trying to be a pia but i am just trying to help this guy .." and that what all of us are trying to do.

I've gone through what he is going through .. trying to find a battery smaller than the stock battery. I went through it again this summer as the low profile one I had just didn't have the power to turn the motor over. Not only is it difficult to find a battery small enough it also difficult to find a battery with the specs .... and specs don't always tell the whole story.

I reluctantly went back to Odyssey this season and I'm more than happy with it's cranking ability. We'll see if I can keep it alive over the winter.

Doc

"We'll see if I can keep it alive over the winter."

Winter begins up there in a few days doesn't it?