Jaybo wrote:
boomerA wrote:
Mention of the name of this 'dealer' should be posted so that others can avoid him like a plague.

Well I think it is just a clueless Service manager hack speech trying to set me up for a possible future upcharge, but I will be on the watch. If they do hone my cylinders I'd be fine with that since they would be buying me a new set. You won,t know until your motor starts overheating and burning oil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaFp8aYkHNA Watch This! To each his own

So...just what is/are Nikasil or Galnikal?
Instead of an iron sleeve, cast or pressed into the aluminum finned cylinder barrel, the barrel is one piece of an aluminum alloy, VERY precisely manufactured as to roundness, etc. Then, a very uniform and very hard coating of silicon carbide is put on the inside surface, and that substance is part of an electro-deposited nickel coating. That 'plating' is NOT very thick, about 0.003" and the silicon carbide particles are about 4 microns in size. The result is a light-weight cylinder with extremely long wearing surface that the piston and rings work against. Baring a mechanical problem that injures the coating, the cylinders will last nearly forever, and only rings, and sometimes pistons, which both wear FAR faster than the cylinder coating, are replaced at fairly high mileages.

HONING, in general: Honing is always done on the old iron cylinders, but NOT necessarily on the Nikasil/Galnikal cylinders.
If you must hone a Nikasil/Galnikal cylinder, Use ONLY the aluminum oxide 240 hone. Do NOT use the silicon carbide hone 320, as there can be a potential problem with that fast cutting hone.

The purpose of the honing on Nikasil/Galnikal is simply to deglaze and clean up. I simply use 3M green pads, soap and water....I don't hone Nikasil.

roadiemort wrote:
You won,t know until your motor starts overheating and burning oil.!

No, actually they would charge me for it, which is what his upsell angle was hinting at.

Then maybe the service manager is not so stupid....He may just be selling you an imaginary hone job..............

Did he offer to install the new 2016 air in the tires too?

Waiting for dealer call to tell me parts kit has arrived. Bike will go in for recall then. Thank you all for the helpful info so far.

Flashback wrote:
Then maybe the service manager is not so stupid....He may just be selling you an imaginary hone job..............

There is that, but I won't be screwed over either, so burden of proof is on them

Mine went in Sat. 1/9

Svc Mgr confirmed: Oil Gear replacement (if needed) no labor cost, just part. Oil/ filter and Trans (Xfer case, clarified by request, and rightly so) fluid are included.

Now, I just have to hope all goes well.

Oil/ filter and Trans fluid are included

Im assuming he meant transfer case oil, as we all know the transmission gears are bathed in the same engine oil.

BubbaKahuna wrote:
Did he offer to install the new 2016 air in the tires too? No, make sure they use helium in the tires to lighten up the bike...