I have the long shots on my '02 R* and with the stock baffle ( if that's what you want to call it) they were loud and had a sharp crackle, pop whatever to them. I copied the quiet baffle design and made a set for my bike. It's still loud but has a more mellow sound to it and doesn't bother me on a long trip like the stock baffles did. And the popping on decel is gone.

MidwestMike wrote:
Father_Pobasturd wrote:
let me ask you this, how many rail dragsters have you seen with baffles? The single most effective performance modification you can make to an internal combustion engine is a free-flowing exhaust system. That being said, if it's too loud for you, none of that matters, right? They run fine with or without baffles. I run mine with V&H pipes and no baffles, my wife runs Samson dual fishtails with no baffles on her Fatboy. It keeps down the chatter at stoplights.

from Illinois

Wow, so far off.

Seriously, isn't back pressure needed for a low RPM, high torque motor? Our bikes have nothing in common with a high-RPM rail dragster.

The other thing, there are two versions of the LongShots. The later HS version had the slash cuts and heat shields. A two in to one pipe provides better performance, but the Longshots have the best chrome available (IMHO)and still sound great. And no matter what exhaust you install, you will not turn a RoadStar in to a "rail dragster".

Some people just dont get it Mike :rollseyes: A 10,000 horsepower dragster engine turning at 12,000 RPM dont need baffles. A 70 horsepower V-Twin turning 4000 rpm does for PROPER running condition! It's kinda like the TPS on the carb, the bike will run good without it, but it will run better with it.

I had Vance and Buttheads Longshots on the 02 when I bought it, took the baffles out and "Felt" the power loss, but them back in and "life was good"

Rod

Yes, it's a wonder why anyone ever changes the exhaust system. Yamaha spends millions on research and sophisticated equipment to create a perfect exhaust system for their bikes. The back pressure, the sound, the aesthetics, the Federal Noise Mandates, the quality of fit and finish, everything is specifically tailored to look, sound and function perfectly. It amazes me how so many makers of aftermarket exhaust systems can survive...obviously, you'd have to be an idiot to remove the stock exhaust system. And to run with no baffles? Why that'll never work...only a 10,000 horsepower dragster will run like that. The bike probably won't even start if you remove the baffles because it's low compression and it needs that back pressure. Without the baffles, all the power just drains right out of the exhaust pipes onto the ground, increasing your carbon footprint while decreasing power.

It's so nice to live in a perfect world where everyone's vehicle runs properly and quietly as the factory intended. Someday, our grandchildren will thank us for the fresh air they breathe.

from Crystal, MN

well I found part of the problem. the intake was cracked. replaced it and it sounds a lot better. the popping is gone and the bike runs 100% better

I recently added cobra speedster longs to my 2013 Roadstar and found them too loud without any baffles. I put in a set of cobra quiet core baffles and it did lower the volume a little bit, but I did not like the sound at all. After much research, I purchased muffler insulation and wrapped the quiet core baffles with a single layer. That did the trick. The bike now has a very low rumble and the sound level is greatly reduced.

When I was searching for quiet core baffles for the cobras, I came across many similar baffles made by V&H - both wrapped and unwrapped so you should be able to find something that works for your application and tastes. Good Luck!

midnghtstar13 wrote:
I recently added cobra speedster longs to my 2013 Roadstar and found them too loud without any baffles. I put in a set of cobra quiet core baffles and it did lower the volume a little bit, but I did not like the sound at all. After much research, I purchased muffler insulation and wrapped the quiet core baffles with a single layer. That did the trick. The bike now has a very low rumble and the sound level is greatly reduced.

When I was searching for quiet core baffles for the cobras, I came across many similar baffles made by V&H - both wrapped and unwrapped so you should be able to find something that works for your application and tastes. Good Luck!i just added quiet baffles to my speedster longs. not much difference. i think i'll try the insulation. the quiet baffles i used for my v&h were wrapped and did make a difference on my Sportster.

Toronto Canada

from Southeast Texas