Best way to solder the manifold tube
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Best way to solder the manifold tube 2 Years, 10 Months ago
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Anyone got the best method for soldering that tube closed. I tried a plumbing torch and could not get it to take. How did you do it?
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Re:Best way to solder the manifold tube 2 Years, 10 Months ago
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i needed the nipple gone so i cut it off drilled the hole and tapped it. i put gasket maker on the threads and bolted it down.
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Re:Best way to solder the manifold tube 2 Years, 10 Months ago
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I ran a good hose off it and plugged it remotely by the rear cylinder so I can still use the vacuum reference value for tuning and troubleshooting, but I'm in the minority on this. I see plugging that thing up as throwing away a tool in the toolbox just because it crowds the drawer a little. I imagine you'll have to clean the living crap out of that nipple and lay the flux to it to get a good stick on it.
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Re:Best way to solder the manifold tube 2 Years, 10 Months ago
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I just dipped it in flux and soldered it shut with a propane torch. No problem. Just don't get it to hot and it will take.
If you think it needs to be cleaned better shove the bristles on a wire brush into it and clean it.
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Last Edit: 2015/04/24 09:04 By davej.
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Re:Best way to solder the manifold tube 2 Years, 10 Months ago
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I agree with JD. A good piece of plugged vacuum hose won't deteriorate like those caps. And you might want to use it later.
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Re:Best way to solder the manifold tube 2 Years, 10 Months ago
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I did mine with just a bit of paste flux and a regular soldering iron. Worked fine. A torch seems like overkill to me.
I'm interested in what kind of tuning or troubleshooting you'd do with the vacuum.
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Re:Best way to solder the manifold tube 2 Years, 10 Months ago
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Use Acid Flux Not electric Rosin flux, and plumbing solder instead of electrical solder with Rosin core. There is a big difference between the two. Electrical solder is weaker as far as strength goes. The Acid flux cleans the metal up and helps the solder flow/bond better on the tube. Just make sure to remove the excess flux when your done or it will corrode the metal.
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Re:Best way to solder the manifold tube 2 Years, 10 Months ago
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My old manifold was cracking so bad that pieces of rubber were falling off of it. I simply cleaned the nipple on the replacement with a wire brush, dribbled some MEK thru it, and fingered some JB Weld into the hole from the top. Capped it, and can easily drill it open is needed.
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Re:Best way to solder the manifold tube 2 Years, 10 Months ago
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That's a good tip sheet. Standard vacuum value at idle for a 1600 is 15.4 inches Hg. For a 1700, 12.8 inches Hg. Mine runs slightly higher vacuum at 16.2 Inches Hg, but the air cleaner area and more free flow of the K&N vs the stock filter and box (where the "standard" comes from) accounts for a nice bump. If you establish a baseline for your engine, you can use it to diagnose anomalies as they appear. To use a vacuum gauge with our bikes, it's best to "buffer" the line, or you'll never read anything but a windshield wiper. Since we have no manifold volume, like a car engine, the surges of the cylinders easily feed back into the intake. This can be seen as the "breathing" effect that Curt talks about. I use my old #35 pilot inline in the hose as a buffer. With this buffer in place, you will get a nice steady value. You will drop tenths very quick with leakage in the intake, and may even see oscillation in the needle on the gauge re-appear. It's an old school tool, but a valuable one. You could diagnose SVS with one as well, but you need your baseline setup to have anything of value to go by.
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