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TOPIC: Re:Keyless ignition
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Re:Keyless ignition 4 Years ago  
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If its just engaging a relay to the starter solenoid, should be fine. A relay doesnt that a whole lot of juice to engage.If all you are using it for is to start the bike, that would work. If you are using it to power up the bike, replacing the key to turn on the ignition, then I don't believe it will.


Cant you install another relay to complete that task as well?
Yes, it would need 2 relays, a transmitter with 2 different functions and the appropriate receiver(s) installed on the bike. With all that, seems like it would a lot easier just to buy a complete kit which is probably not cheap and kinda defeats the OP's idea of doing it on a budget.
 
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Re:Keyless ignition 4 Years ago  
I would agree, but not my mod idea. Still something cool and I hope he makes it work. Would be cheaper than replacing a broken or worn out ignition switch key thingy (not enough coffee also).
 
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Re:Keyless ignition 4 Years ago  
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As far as a complete remote starter system goes, it doesn't make much sense to me for a motorcycle, especially a carbed bike. The remote would not work the choke so the engine would already have to be warmed up enough to start without it.

You definitely need more coffee. On carbed bikes the choke is manual. On injected bikes, well I don't know how that function works. I think the key switch operates at least 2 circuits. I'm not sure, I don't have a wiring diagram in front of me. Sounds like a cool idea though.
 
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Re:Keyless ignition 4 Years ago  
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As far as a complete remote starter system goes, it doesn't make much sense to me for a motorcycle, especially a carbed bike. The remote would not work the choke so the engine would already have to be warmed up enough to start without it.

You definitely need more coffee. On carbed bikes the choke is manual. On injected bikes, well I don't know how that function works. I think the key switch operates at least 2 circuits. I'm not sure, I don't have a wiring diagram in front of me. Sounds like a cool idea though.


I think you need more coffee too. If you reread what I said, I stated that the remote would not work the choke.
 
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Re:Keyless ignition 4 Years ago  
I think he just wants to do away with the key switch and start the bike withe the regular start button. Remote start would invite theft. My $.02. I'm done.
 
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Re:Keyless ignition 4 Years ago  
yes fellas just want to get rid of the key
 
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Re:Keyless ignition 4 Years ago  
I just received the KIL setup that takehikes had. I have it wired up (12V power supply) and played with it some. It is pretty cool and can not wait to get it installed.

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Re:Keyless ignition 4 Years ago  
I know you got the KIL from takehikes, but I found some stuff other folks might be interested in.

RFID control


RFID instructions
 
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Re:Keyless ignition 4 Years ago  
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ok so i looked at the schematic but still have a few questions. forgive me as i am delving into areas way beyond anything i have done before and if this works it could save some guys a ton of cash fro this mod. i want to get rid of the key cylinder and replace it with a rf remote. so what exactly does the key do. my guess is it completes a circuit so my idea is to replace that function with the remote and remove the cylinder completely. i do already have a solution for the seat release.

I think your post is getting lost bouncing around a few different threads..

This post showed some options, but it sounds like it's not what you are trying to do.

There are two basic parts to starting the bike, turning the key on. We can look at the schematics and determine what happens when this occurs. Juice is sent to the fuses for the ignition, carb heater, headlight, etc., the fuel pump and clutch switch recieve current, and a line also goes to the ignition module.

The other piece is the starter switch, which is momentary contact. Are you only replacing the ignition switch? Will you still manually be pushing the starter switch?

Did you look at that $9 RFID item that was posted? Does that seem to fit in with what you would like to accomplish?
 
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Re:Keyless ignition 4 Years ago  
OK update i have talked to a tech who was actually knowledgeable and willing to share. this is the plan
1. i bought a universal 4 channel rf remote with each channel having its own 15 amp relay built in.
2. going to plug in the harness{bike is stripped right now) to find out which wires from the ignition show resistance with the key on and none with the key off using a volt meter. those wires that do show resistance in the on position are the ones that will have to go hot via the remote. If the load is two big i can isolate functions to their own channel, meaning i would have to push more than one button on the remote,,,i am fine with this.


remote only cost 30 bucks at local parts store and wiring connectors and heat shrink i have but you could spend another 10 to 15 bucks if you don't have these things handy. i have dissected the schematic to isolate what wires and where they are to test. if this works i will have achieved my goal at a cost less than 50 bucks. and with the four channel fob i can use any remaining channels for driving lights or light pods etc. i will try to get to this this weekend but not holding my breath as the wife says "WE" are busy which usually means she relaxes while i try to complete the hunny do list she seems to pull out of thin air. regardless i will keep you guys informed of progress
 
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