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Re:Hillary? 1 Year, 3 Months ago  
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Trump is so emotionally inept that his own staff has grounded him from Twitter until after the election.

Applying for the most important job on the planet.

Seriously.



And Clinton is so Corrupt that anyone that can trust her or ignore her deeds should have strong moral objections to voting for her.


She is, but the moral argument falls apart when you consider the hypocrisy of many evangelical Christians voting for Trump. The moral decision for these people would be to abstain from voting for either of them.
 
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Re:Hillary? 1 Year, 3 Months ago  
theshredbaron wrote:
Derailed75 wrote:
BubbaKahuna wrote:
Trump is so emotionally inept that his own staff has grounded him from Twitter until after the election.

Applying for the most important job on the planet.

Seriously.



And Clinton is so Corrupt that anyone that can trust her or ignore her deeds should have strong moral objections to voting for her.


She is, but the moral argument falls apart when you consider the hypocrisy of many evangelical Christians voting for Trump. The moral decision for these people would be to abstain from voting for either of them.



Im voting for Johnson and morals have to do with more then religion.
 
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Re:Hillary? 1 Year, 3 Months ago  
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Im voting for Johnson and morals have to do with more then religion.


Not getting too deep in to politics or discussing anyone's merits....,
but if Johnson doesn't stand a good chance of wining, isn't it almost like throwing your vote away?

I'm not sure if it proves a point or sends a message to the other candidates if votes for Johnson don't add up enough to even show on the radar.
 
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Re:Hillary? 1 Year, 3 Months ago  
MidwestMike wrote:
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Im voting for Johnson and morals have to do with more then religion.


Not getting too deep in to politics or discussing anyone's merits....,
but if Johnson doesn't stand a good chance of wining, isn't it almost like throwing your vote away?

I'm not sure if it proves a point or sends a message to the other candidates if votes for Johnson don't add up enough to even show on the radar.


You know who says those kind of things?

People who want their candidate to get the vote. Or the ruling parties (both dems and reps) who want to stay in power.
 
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Re:Hillary? 1 Year, 3 Months ago  
The sad truth is that we got here because of the established parties. I wish there was some way that we could get out of the place that we now find ourselves. However, we don't seem to have any clear path out. So it is not just a question of "how did we get here?", but also of "how do we get out of here with the least amount of damage?". I am not sure I have heard anyone give an answer to those questions except perhaps some theoretical conversation as to how we got here. This is just all so very sad. Sad indeed.
 
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Re:Hillary? 1 Year, 3 Months ago  
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The sad truth is that we got here because of the established parties. I wish there was some way that we could get out of the place that we now find ourselves. However, we don't seem to have any clear path out. So it is not just a question of "how did we get here?", but also of "how do we get out of here with the least amount of damage?". I am not sure I have heard anyone give an answer to those questions except perhaps some theoretical conversation as to how we got here. This is just all so very sad. Sad indeed.

We got there (and I say "we" because even though I'm not American, the same things apply in Canada) because the electorate is intellectually and politically lazy.

If people took time to read credible sources, research and understand issues - both sides, not just their preferences - in-depth - and get politically active, things would change.

Until that happens (and that's not likely), people will continue to be ruled by whoever can pitch the right sound-bites and push the right buttons to motivate them to elect them as party leaders and then eventually vote.

Parties are nothing more than groups of people - your friends - your neighbors - so the blame really lies with all of us - which is why I love to say "people get the government they deserve" - because, ultimately, they (we?) do.
 
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Re:Hillary? 1 Year, 3 Months ago  
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OK, I'm looking..don't see any such list of dead folk's in the Clinton's wake. Just more conspiracy bullshit from the Trump supporters. Hillary Roddam Clinton WILL be the next POTUS, you'll see real soon. And you ought to be thankful that lunatic Trump won't be getting his grubby little dickskinners anywhere near the nuclear arsenal. He's nothing more than a power hungry spoiled little rich kid who whines every time he doesn't get his way.

I should have known that you a person who lives off the backs of us working class and is on the Democratic payroll would vote for that worthless lying, cheating piece of crap. Why would you want to loose your money ticket, so Hell Yes vote for killary.
And there is no conspiracy, just too many coincidences to peoples lives being cut short. But you will never see the truth as you don't want to. I just saw on the news this morning how the stock market reacts to Clinton's problems. And now that it's been pushed under the carpet again how the stock market has gone back up. And the female reporter stated it perfectly. "The stock market wants Clinton because nothing will change" Which is the problem we have now.
 
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Re:Hillary? 1 Year, 3 Months ago  
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Im voting for Johnson and morals have to do with more then religion.


Not getting too deep in to politics or discussing anyone's merits....,
but if Johnson doesn't stand a good chance of wining, isn't it almost like throwing your vote away?

I'm not sure if it proves a point or sends a message to the other candidates if votes for Johnson don't add up enough to even show on the radar.


You know who says those kind of things?

People who want their candidate to get the vote. Or the ruling parties (both dems and reps) who want to stay in power.


Not necessarily.
I said it, and it can't lead you giving my candidate your vote,
and I'm not a ruling party that wants to stay in power.
 
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Re:Hillary? 1 Year, 3 Months ago  
MidwestMike wrote:
Derailed75 wrote:
MidwestMike wrote:
Derailed75 wrote:


Im voting for Johnson and morals have to do with more then religion.


Not getting too deep in to politics or discussing anyone's merits....,
but if Johnson doesn't stand a good chance of wining, isn't it almost like throwing your vote away?

I'm not sure if it proves a point or sends a message to the other candidates if votes for Johnson don't add up enough to even show on the radar.


You know who says those kind of things?

People who want their candidate to get the vote. Or the ruling parties (both dems and reps) who want to stay in power.


Not necessarily.
I said it, and it can't lead you giving my candidate your vote,
and I'm not a ruling party that wants to stay in power.



You know the saying about the definition of insanity? I think everyone can admit these are not the best candidates the reps or dems have put out in recent years yet many of you are going to vote for one of them ( or against the other) because of some dumb saying about taking votes away. How do we change if we make the same mistakes?

In this cycle in particular I have heard the " taking away votes" thing so often that I can say if everyone that said that voted for Johnson he would win I a landslide
 
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Re:Hillary? 1 Year, 3 Months ago  
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In this cycle in particular I have heard the " taking away votes" thing so often that I can say if everyone that said that voted for Johnson he would win I a landslide


You might be right...but that begs the question - is Johnson a good choice for President, other than being an alternative to Trump or Clinton?

The answer to that is "no".

Same answer to "Is Gary Johnson a Libertarian?" Look up his fiscal track record and policy statements, I'm not even sure if he understands what Libertarianism means.
 
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