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Mr. L: Mr. Victor Losa
Mr. R: Mr. Sabatino Roncucci
Mr. R:
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How about, say, the Italians in relation to the local authorities. I mean, how were the Italians treated?
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Mr. L:
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Very good, too. Very good, yes. No trouble. There was no
recrimination.
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Mr. R:
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I see, and what was the relationship between Italians and other ethnic
groups?
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Mr. L:
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Also very good, too. There was no trouble in that line. None. None,
whatsoever.
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Mr. R:
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That's very good.
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Mr. L:
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Then came the Italian invasion of Ethiopia.
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Mr. R:
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Oh, I see, in '36, eh?
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Mr. L:
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Yes, '35
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Mr. R:
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'35, that's right.
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Mr. L:
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1935. A very prophetic year. And that was really quite a thing to
handle.
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Mr. R:
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I see, because of your position, eh?
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Mr. L:
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Yes. The population was quite against such an invasion and I had to display quite a bit
of...
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Mr. R:
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courage to..
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Mr. L:
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Well yes, I had to explain as much as I could with what I had on hand. Yes, with
pamphlets and books, and I went and gave lectures in church halls and in clubs. And I was accepted, and they didn't throw me out and they didn't insult me at
all.
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Mr. R:
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You know, the nature of your lectures, so to speak, was such as to explain the Italian position in that
war.
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Mr. L:
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The Italian position in accordance to this invasion.
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Mr. R:
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Were there people, let alone the authorities, but other Canadians who were begrudging the Italians here in
Edmonton?
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Mr. L:
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Oh, yes, but not badly. I was never damaged, my property was never touched or damaged, never,
never.
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Mr. R:
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So, actually, it was an understandable reaction.
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Mr. L:
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Yes, but then it was finished. And that was not all. Then was the declaration of war.
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Mr. R:
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Oh yes, tell me something about the Second World War. What happened
here?
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Mr. L:
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Well, as you know, Mussolini declared war on Great Britain, therefore Canada was
also...
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Mr. R:
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...on the side of Britain.
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Mr. L:
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Naturally. Indirectly, she was a war enemy, too.
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Mr. R:
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Of Italy.
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Mr. L:
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Yes.
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Mr. R:
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So, how did you manage?
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Mr. L:
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I didn't like this war that Mussolini...I didn't like it at all because I knew that it was not a very, very intelligent thing to do. There was no possibility that they could possibly gain anything - or
win.
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Mr. R:
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Tell me, what was the attitude of the Canadian authorities to the Italian community
here?
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Mr. L:
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Well, again they didn't bother them. But - all the Italians and the Germans, they were
compelled to go to the nearest R.C.M.P. detachment and register. So, I had to go to. Because, by then, I had given my resignation as an Italian Consul. I was out, and therefore, I was just an ordinary citizen. Therefore, I just went there once a month and I signed my sheet, act of presence, and that was all I
did.
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Mr. R:
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And that was for the purpose of assuring that you were not leaving the
district?
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Mr. L:
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Right, yes. It was a formality.
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Mr. R:
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In other words, if you wanted to go to Toronto, how could you
go?
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Mr. L:
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You would have to ask permission from them, and they would grant you the permit to leave, but that was a formality. That was the only
thing.
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Mr. R:
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I see, that was the only reason you were ...
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Mr. L:
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Yes, but they didn't bother me, so...
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